The first shredder


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10/13/2005 5:14 am
So, who was the first shredder -- I am not talking about fast guitar playing, like in flamenco -- no, I am talking about the real deal. So, let's find out THE father or the first hero of shred! (Please, include year, album, song).
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10/13/2005 12:26 pm
I think that would be hard to say, since "shredding", just like everything else, progressively evolved from other styles into what it is today.
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10/13/2005 8:03 pm
I'd say Nicoli Paganini, the violinist....He was the worlds first "shredder" in my opinion and others opinions.

Yngwie Malmsteen plays a lot of Paganni.

And also, Eugene's Trick Bag that Steve Vai played in Crossroads is basically one of Paganini's Caprices, the 5th I think.....someone correct me if I'm wrong here.
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10/13/2005 10:19 pm
Post above me are totally true

But I think the first shredder on Electric guitar might be Van Halen
1978, Van Halen 1, most of the tracks
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10/13/2005 10:38 pm
In terms of the neo-classical influence, I would say Jason Becker or maybe Randy Rhoads. As far as pure shred goes, Jason Becker would be the first of the modern day players in my opinion, then again he got his influences from guys like Ritchie Blackmore and other completely unshred related players... he also said he was influenced by early Vai and Van Halen but I would'nt categorise either of them as shred.. fast as hell maybe but not "shred".
If you want to talk about the shredders of yore, yeah Paganini was one, as was Tchaikovsky, Bach (main influence for modern day "Bach 'n Roll") and of course the ultimate shredder Franz Lizst (check him out if you want to hear an insane amount of notes per second in a very musical context)
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01/12/2006 2:16 am
I think probably one of the first Electric guitar Shredding out there was Jimmy Page's soloing on Heartbreaker, Led Zeppelin II,1969. It's nothing to write home about these days(Heck, I learned it in about 10 minutes). But in '69 I bet it had a lot of guitarists going :eek: OMG... How the Hell does he do that?

Even Eddie van Halen said that song was a big inspiration to him and helped him develop his Finger tapping technique.
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01/12/2006 3:10 am
Too easy! And you guys should know better.

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01/12/2006 3:13 am
Probably some kid in india playing a Sitar about 200 years ago. His parents were like *No, No, that's not how you play dat* and he just shrugs and keep shreddin. :D
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01/15/2006 8:23 pm
Originally Posted by: bigbudaProbably some kid in india playing a Sitar about 200 years ago. His parents were like *No, No, that's not how you play dat* and he just shrugs and keep shreddin. :D

im that kid... :(
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01/15/2006 9:16 pm
Originally Posted by: alucard0941im that kid... :(


So tell me, what does it take to extend your lifespan to over 200 years. :D
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01/15/2006 10:51 pm
Originally Posted by: bigbudaSo tell me, what does it take to extend your lifespan to over 200 years. :D


He meant that he was that re-incarnated kid :p
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01/16/2006 4:42 am
Originally Posted by: Dante7978He meant that he was that re-incarnated kid :p


Oh, I get it now..... :rolleyes:
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01/17/2006 12:26 am
Originally Posted by: bigbudaSo tell me, what does it take to extend your lifespan to over 200 years. :D

yea man, my uncle was Gandhi in his last life.
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01/17/2006 12:32 am
Originally Posted by: bigbudaSo tell me, what does it take to extend your lifespan to over 200 years. :D

yea man, my uncle was Gandhi in his last life.
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01/17/2006 12:38 am
Originally Posted by: SuperhumanIn terms of the neo-classical influence, I would say Jason Becker or maybe Randy Rhoads. As far as pure shred goes, Jason Becker would be the first of the modern day players in my opinion, then again he got his influences from guys like Ritchie Blackmore and other completely unshred related players... he also said he was influenced by early Vai and Van Halen but I would'nt categorise either of them as shred.. fast as hell maybe but not "shred".
If you want to talk about the shredders of yore, yeah Paganini was one, as was Tchaikovsky, Bach (main influence for modern day "Bach 'n Roll") and of course the ultimate shredder Franz Lizst (check him out if you want to hear an insane amount of notes per second in a very musical context)

Yeah, umm, Bach's music, that of the baroque era, tended to favor compositional integrity over instrumental flambouyancy. Other than Paganini, I don't think that list really fits...except Franz Liszt in some ways. However, his themes are certainly more memorable than most modern-day shredders.
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01/17/2006 2:12 am
"Ahhhhh, Bach." Can anyone geuss what famous,older TV show that was from. Hint: hospital
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01/17/2006 2:49 am
Originally Posted by: elklandercc"Ahhhhh, Bach." Can anyone geuss what famous,older TV show that was from. Hint: hospital


A sadly misguided 'Radar' O'Reilly, being (badly) advised by "Hawkeye' Pierce on how to impress a nurse who enjoyed classical music.
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01/17/2006 6:27 am
Originally Posted by: LordathestringsA sadly misguided 'Radar' O'Reilly, being (badly) advised by "Hawkeye' Pierce on how to impress a nurse who enjoyed classical music.


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