I'm not into Van Halen at all... i find their stuff very cheesy and very forced (lyrically anyway), if anything it's more forced than rap (well, the stuff [u]I[/u] listen to anyway)... It's the very cheesy lyrics, that get to me, and the feeling that nothing in their songs has any substance as such...
It's diffcult to explain, but you'd have to listen REM, David Bowie, Iggy Pop, Dylan, Blackalicious, RunDMC, Public enemy, nirvana (anything with a gifted song writer lyrasist, regardless of genre, to see waht i mean)...
I can understand, that poeple might simply not "get" the genre, and that's fair enough, but to get on their soapboxes, and start spouting out that rappers are talentless is a whole different matter..
To this day though, i still dont get why poeple say GnR/ Pearl jam/ Van Halen/ Bon Jovi etc etc have good lyrics.. God know i've listened to enough GnR, and out of both "appetite for destruction" and "speghetti incident", and there's not a song that i like...
