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03/28/2005 2:24 am
Originally Posted by: Guitarro777
Yeah I agree with you about the person that said the greats practice 10 hours +. John Petrucci for instance would practice 6 to 10 hours a day, not 16 and he's considered to be one of the best in the world.. Yeah it takes discipline, but even if you practice wrong for 18 hours a day straight for 4 years, you'll still be a crappy player. Quality not quantity.


Ok, if you reread my post you'll notice that I put 10-16 hours a day. Steve Vai, for example, has a 14 hour practice schedule that was published in some guitar magazine. He used that routine while he was at Berklee. I find Vai much more easy to listen to than Petrucci. Vai's melody's and memorable material is unbelievable. And, if you'd ever heard him improvise you'd understand.

Marcus Paus on the other hand, the fastest player known to man (or I should say, that I've ever heard), practiced 16 hours a day or more. There's an audio clip on this site somewhere of a song he did. It's unrecognizable he's playing so fast.

Once again, I never said anything about practicing wrong. I'm talking about a strict routine that is followed. Not practicing "wrong for 18 hours a day."

Now, go on and study your technique and tell everyone how "technical" a player you are, but guess what, "technique" doesn't make music. Take Michael Angelo for example. The dude is a technical wizard, but he writes songs that are so boring it ain't even funny. Jimi Hendrix, on the other hand, bad technique, but great player.

I tried to offer you some advice on improving your playing and I got back and reply that was less than desirable. I didn't try to tell you how to practice, I simply gave you advice. So take that as you wish. But just remember, no matter how good you get, or how fast you get, and even how fast you get there, someone's always better, and no one is going to respect an attitude like that.
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03/28/2005 2:28 am
Originally Posted by: Pantallica1
But just remember, no matter how good you get, or how fast you get, and even how fast you get there, someone's always better, and no one is going to respect an attitude like that.


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03/28/2005 2:31 am
Originally Posted by: Cryptic Excretions
It can be a scale, or it can be an etude that's been made up. It can even be someone else's song. In my case it was an etude I made and altered through my practicing procedures. 1 note per tick is 1/4 notes. If you play 2 notes per tick that is 1/8 notes. 2 notes per tick take half the time as 1 note per tick so, y'know, 1/8 note right there. Divide 1/8 in half and you have 1/16 which is 4 notes per tick. Divide that in half and you've got 1/32 which is 8 notes per tick. Half that and you've got 1/64 which is a whopping 16 notes per single tick. I've been a bit intimidated by the 1/64 notes personally.

OMG are you serious? I can't even wrap my mind around 1/32s let alone 64s. LOL. But I think i'll just plug away at 1/4 notes for awhile.
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03/28/2005 4:45 am
Originally Posted by: Pantallica1
I tried to offer you some advice on improving your playing and I got back and reply that was less than desirable. I didn't try to tell you how to practice, I simply gave you advice. So take that as you wish. But just remember, no matter how good you get, or how fast you get, and even how fast you get there, someone's always better, and no one is going to respect an attitude like that.


Hey I took your advice, i listened. I always listen when people want to tell me how to improve. I'm just complaining cause no one is actually answering my question, they're giving me advice on my playing instead. I'm feeling like if I asked for advice on music theory, but instead I'm getting advice on how to imrpove my picking. I just want people to tell me, from their experience, how long it too to get to the level they are at. I don't want to get into verbal arguments with anyone, I'm just here reading all your posts, and yes I do thank you for your advice, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying i'm the all powerful guitar God, I know there are people better than me.
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03/28/2005 4:57 am
Originally Posted by: Guitarro777Hey I took your advice, i listened. I always listen when people want to tell me how to improve. I'm just complaining cause no one is actually answering my question, they're giving me advice on my playing instead. I'm feeling like if I asked for advice on music theory, but instead I'm getting advice on how to imrpove my picking. I just want people to tell me, from their experience, how long it too to get to the level they are at. I don't want to get into verbal arguments with anyone, I'm just here reading all your posts, and yes I do thank you for your advice, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying i'm the all powerful guitar God, I know there are people better than me.


Well, I don't know how you classify the "level" one's at? To me, the most important part of playing is being able to get what music is playing inside your head onto your instrument. Once I'm able to do that, I'll be satisfied with my playing.

I don't use a metronome that often, so I can't tell you how fast I can play. I can tell you it's as fast as I think I'd ever need to play. I've been playing for about 6 years and when I first got my guitar I'd practice about 1-2 hours a day. Now, with school and work, I probably play maybe an hour a day, and it's not really practice since I want to enjoy the time I have to play.

I would sa, if you can comfortably play 1/16ths at 140bpm after 9 months, that's good progress. Just be careful with practicing so much, you'll tend to fall into ruts. Once, again, I'm not telling you what to do exactly, just offering some of my advice. I find that a good practice needs about a half an hour or so of just jamming and improvising. Keeps it interesting, and also keeps the fun in playing. Remember why you picked up the guitar. Not to be able to play 1/16ths at 240bpm, but being able to play music in general. Keep up the good work, and don't forget to share the tunes.
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03/28/2005 5:05 am
Thanks man. See now that's what I meant by having my question answered. I also got some good hints out of that. Thanks pantallica.
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03/28/2005 5:19 am
Originally Posted by: Guitarro777Thanks man. See now that's what I meant by having my question answered. I also got some good hints out of that. Thanks pantallica.


Anytime, just remember everyone here is trying to help you, in one way or another. So be friendly!!! :D
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03/28/2005 5:25 am
Originally Posted by: Pantallica1Anytime, just remember everyone here is trying to help you, in one way or another. So be friendly!!! :D


Yeah I apologize for being kinda mean in one of my past responses, I was just a little frustrated that's all.
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03/29/2005 3:50 am
Originally Posted by: Guitarro777Yeah I apologize for being kinda mean in one of my past responses, I was just a little frustrated that's all.


Ahh, frustration, isn't that why we picked up the guitar in the first place??? :D
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04/03/2005 4:50 pm
im not sure if im a god, although i can do any technique you name(cept raseguedo). I started realising i was getting better when my guitar lines started feeling more comfortable/it was easier to produce good sounding solos/ and most impotantly i felt real comfortable playing the things i knew. For example, i learned the "one" main solo by kirk hammet when i was in my 2nd year of playing, and i just couldnt play the middle part of the soo just after the tapping, but i tried and just couldnt get it. i then forgot all about it, then when i was at the end of my 3rd year of playing the guitar, i got the old tab out again, and i could play it comfortably.
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