Originally Posted by: .SaM.McMahon.... i've tried teaching myself, 3 books, and a teacher, which really sucked...

[font=trebuchet ms]It's a shame the teacher didn't work out for you. When I was getting started, just about everyone I knew was playing, or learning to play. That meant that we were able to share ideas and help each other out. It makes a big difference when you have someone who can show you how it's done. If you don't have a lot of friends who can help you along, I strongly recommend finding another teacher. It takes a special talent to teach a beginner - I found out the hard way that I don't really have the patience for it. Keep at it. It does get better.[/font]