What I meant by refering to les pauls as pathetic was that they feel to much like acoustics when you play them in the way that they are too heavy, bulky, and always get in the way. However, I will readily admit that they do have more "balls" as you put it than ibanez guitars and just might be better quality. Only thing is, I don't think guitars should be heavy enough to kill a man with. They are'nt that kind of axe.:)