Originally Posted by: noticingthemistakeAbortion is questionable whether it's murder. IMHO abortion is only murder once the baby has reached the stage where it is aware it is alive. When it's still a couple of cells, I don't think it's murder. And this should be where the women decides whether she wants an abortion or not. Not when it is nearly full grown. That's wrong IMO. I think the women should still have the right to choose, because there still can be a responcible and civil choice in doing so. example the women may be financially unstable, and not rightly equiped to care for a child. or the woman was raped, which is no fault of her own. She should not have to punished again by being forced to have the child. Stem cell can be considered murder, but that depends on the circumstance. If abortion is allowed why not take the benefit of stem cell also.

I mean hunting with a rifle is murder, but hunting and just leaving the kill to rot in the forest is a waste. No real comparison but there's a point. In what we can't control we must seek the best out of it.

Okay, let me clarify my stand on abortion. Abortion is just plain wrong as a means of birth control. I do agree that a woman should be able to have one if, and only if, she has been raped. I know I'm being hyporcritical here in that I believe abortion is murder and I believe a woman should have the right to have one in the case of rape. But there is no perfect solution to it.

Hunting with a rifle is murder? How's that? Yeah, it's wrong to kill something and leave it there to rot. But humans have to eat, and we eat meat (naturally). That's just a part of the food chain.