Idk what your sayin..... if you are saying VAi, satch, yngwie and gilbert are overrated you need to take another look. and these guys get hardly any credit nowadays by nonguitarists. Seriously ask your friends who dont play guitar if they know who yngwie malmsteen is and ask them if they know any of his songs.... These guys may be made to be "great" gutiarist and may be alittle overrated , but in the real "non guitarist world" these guys arent **** adn they are highly underrated as musicians. Bottom line these guys kick ass. Long live shred