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07/07/2004 5:16 am
Added an E and an E#? Is there such a thing? Isn't an E# really an F, enharmonically speaking?
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07/07/2004 10:02 am
in some situations it can make sense to write it as e#

theoretically (and normally practically aswell) two enharmonic exchangable notes are the same. but there are musicians (mostly top-notch-violinists) that claim to play those two notes differently (off a few cents).

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07/07/2004 10:04 am
Originally Posted by: LeedoggAdded an E and an E#? Is there such a thing? Isn't an E# really an F, enharmonically speaking?


I heard somewhere, that there´s a very little difference, physical, but I really don´t know if that is true.
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07/07/2004 11:45 am
I may be way out in this, but shouldn't it be more correct to mention e# when you talk about the the key-note A and its augemented fifth (e#) in let's say the major scale. Because the F doesn't appear in the scale and by using the e# you overcome that problem.. Am I right? :(

It's the same, I think, when you mention the diminished seventh of C, which should be named as bbb. :eek:

I may be wrong, though.. :confused:
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07/07/2004 8:16 pm
Originally Posted by: Azraelin some situations it can make sense to write it as e#

theoretically (and normally practically aswell) two enharmonic exchangable notes are the same. but there are musicians (mostly top-notch-violinists) that claim to play those two notes differently (off a few cents).


Why on earth would they do that?
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07/07/2004 9:22 pm
Because it sounds different.

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07/07/2004 10:30 pm
But if it's the same note musically, I don't understand why they would play it differently...

e.g. one person tunes an open string to an E#, another to an F. Shouldn't the two strings be in tune with each other?

I can't think of a very good example, but it doesn't compute in my brain that E# and F should be different. I'll keep thinking. Work with me here, Az.
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07/07/2004 10:49 pm
I little guess.. It may be the same when you play 15th fret on E string and open on G string. The same note, but there are slight differences, the E string should sound a little "phater".. Bad guess.. :rolleyes:
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07/08/2004 10:34 am
no - it has something to do with todays and the ancient tunings. i´ve written an article on this in my instructor section.
back when there was no equal temperament tuning, a note played on an instrument that was tuned in C sounded different than the very same note played on an instrument tuned in F for example.
these differences gave the various keys much more individuality than they have nowadays. thats why some super-musicians still try to reproduce those moods in certain situations.

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