Underrated and overrated guitarists

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Joined: 04/06/01

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Over:

- Yngwie Malmsteen (fast but boring)
- James Hettfield (there is not one metallica song that i could not play one-handed *L*)
- Carl Logan (ManowaR) - I do like manowar - but he´s definitely not half as good as it seems
- Keith Richards (do i need to say anything about a guy who plays a five-string most of the time??)

Under:

- Jeff Beck - NOONE on this planet will ever reach his tone and feeling!
- Jeniffer Batten
- Julian Bream (classical guitar)
- Marco Tamayo (classical guitar)
- Steve Lukather (hundreds of productions would be nothing without him)
- Andrés Segovia (our all daddy)
- All the fabulous guitarists noone ever heard of - there are thousands of real great players and brilliant musicians who live a life of poverty - never recognized by anyone - those guys are realy great, for they´ll never stop making REAL music - even if that means to be abandoned

Holiness is in right action and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves. What you decide to do every day makes you a good person... or not.

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Over:

- Yngwie Malmsteen (fast but boring)
- James Hettfield (there is not one metallica song that i could not play one-handed *L*)
- Carl Logan (ManowaR) - I do like manowar - but he´s definitely not half as good as it seems
- Keith Richards (do i need to say anything about a guy who plays a five-string most of the time??)

Under:

- Jeff Beck - NOONE on this planet will ever reach his tone and feeling!
- Jeniffer Batten
- Julian Bream (classical guitar)
- Marco Tamayo (classical guitar)
- Steve Lukather (hundreds of productions would be nothing without him)
- Andrés Segovia (our all daddy)
- All the fabulous guitarists noone ever heard of - there are thousands of real great players and brilliant musicians who live a life of poverty - never recognized by anyone - those guys are realy great, for they´ll never stop making REAL music - even if that means to be abandoned

Holiness is in right action and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves. What you decide to do every day makes you a good person... or not.

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Joined: 10/31/01

Posts: 611

Underated:

Alex Lifeson from Rush. Between 76 and 82 I think they were a great band. Exit stage left has some painfully exquisitely beautiful solos on it, full of interesting dynamics, tasteful vibratos and speedy runs.
Jennifer Batten; violently gothic perfectly executed stuff. Her range of styles seems to encompass everything from HEnderson to Vai but I prefer her to either.
Shaun Baxter; Jazz metal has more convolutions to it than a bowl of spaghetti, really scary shredding but plenty of musical content to it.

Over-rated
Clapton, what is the big deal? Malmsteem (He's mega talented don't get me wrong but Petrucci beats him at his own game and is more versatile and interesting to boot) Hendrix (Except Voodoo Chile which kicks sooo much ass) and vai (brilliant though he is I much prefer Satriani even though I doubt he can quite match his technique and you dont' get better than for the love of god really do you?) I expect to receive death threats...
If I couldn't laugh at myself how could I laugh at someone less ridiculous?

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Underated:

Alex Lifeson from Rush. Between 76 and 82 I think they were a great band. Exit stage left has some painfully exquisitely beautiful solos on it, full of interesting dynamics, tasteful vibratos and speedy runs.
Jennifer Batten; violently gothic perfectly executed stuff. Her range of styles seems to encompass everything from HEnderson to Vai but I prefer her to either.
Shaun Baxter; Jazz metal has more convolutions to it than a bowl of spaghetti, really scary shredding but plenty of musical content to it.

Over-rated
Clapton, what is the big deal? Malmsteem (He's mega talented don't get me wrong but Petrucci beats him at his own game and is more versatile and interesting to boot) Hendrix (Except Voodoo Chile which kicks sooo much ass) and vai (brilliant though he is I much prefer Satriani even though I doubt he can quite match his technique and you dont' get better than for the love of god really do you?) I expect to receive death threats...
If I couldn't laugh at myself how could I laugh at someone less ridiculous?

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Joined: 12/20/01

Posts: 183

Alex from Rush

I didn't understand how good Alex from Rush was until recently when a drummer friend of mine wanted me to jam with him. *whistle*
*shrug*

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Alex from Rush

I didn't understand how good Alex from Rush was until recently when a drummer friend of mine wanted me to jam with him. *whistle*
*shrug*

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Joined: 08/10/01

Posts: 882

I dont know if I'm the only one who thinks this...
Under: jeff buckley, Daron Malkan (system of a down), Gordon Giltrap (this man falls into the malmsteem catogry of too much speed and not enough feel sometimes, but the intro to "fear of the drak" is astounding, it has got a FEEL to it, like something very quick and nasty is gonna happen), the guitarist (so under-rated I dont even know his name, but to be fair that's due to him being in the mighty shadow of Les claypoole), Peter buck (listen to him on "lotus")...

Over:yep, you guessed it... Malmsteem (yes he maybe be fast, but is about as intresting to listen to as someone touch type at very high speeds), Via (i just dont get it, it's cheese, and "for the love of god" is hardly an amazing piece of work emotionally... the outro sounds like some sort of delay effect.. in a net shell, it sounds like the music you'd hear for those crappy b-movies, where the cop has just had his partener killed on his last day before retirement, told to hand in his badge etc etc, and is on the seafornt figuring out revernge at sun set), Satraini ("surfing with the alien" CHEEEEEEEESE!!!), paul macartny (Sp) (maybe it's because of his last single.. bloody give war a chance or whatever it was... seriously it makes you look very cynically at his whole career, when they were all for PEACE AND LOVE MAN!! when maybe it was all just because it was selling well at the time)...

this is all my oppinion, and I'm not having a dig at the gutiarists I've said are over-rated....*listens to "jazzy sensation"-afrika bammbata*

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I dont know if I'm the only one who thinks this...
Under: jeff buckley, Daron Malkan (system of a down), Gordon Giltrap (this man falls into the malmsteem catogry of too much speed and not enough feel sometimes, but the intro to "fear of the drak" is astounding, it has got a FEEL to it, like something very quick and nasty is gonna happen), the guitarist (so under-rated I dont even know his name, but to be fair that's due to him being in the mighty shadow of Les claypoole), Peter buck (listen to him on "lotus")...

Over:yep, you guessed it... Malmsteem (yes he maybe be fast, but is about as intresting to listen to as someone touch type at very high speeds), Via (i just dont get it, it's cheese, and "for the love of god" is hardly an amazing piece of work emotionally... the outro sounds like some sort of delay effect.. in a net shell, it sounds like the music you'd hear for those crappy b-movies, where the cop has just had his partener killed on his last day before retirement, told to hand in his badge etc etc, and is on the seafornt figuring out revernge at sun set), Satraini ("surfing with the alien" CHEEEEEEEESE!!!), paul macartny (Sp) (maybe it's because of his last single.. bloody give war a chance or whatever it was... seriously it makes you look very cynically at his whole career, when they were all for PEACE AND LOVE MAN!! when maybe it was all just because it was selling well at the time)...

this is all my oppinion, and I'm not having a dig at the gutiarists I've said are over-rated....*listens to "jazzy sensation"-afrika bammbata*

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Joined: 02/04/02

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Underrated: Vivian Campbell, Jake E. Lee, Rowan Robertson, Craig Goldie

Overrated: Kirk Hammet, the guy from Creed, those two clowns from Korn, Mick Mars, Jimmy Page

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Underrated: Vivian Campbell, Jake E. Lee, Rowan Robertson, Craig Goldie

Overrated: Kirk Hammet, the guy from Creed, those two clowns from Korn, Mick Mars, Jimmy Page

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Joined: 10/31/01

Posts: 611

I'm no vegan I love cheese, especially the stuff with garlic in it. If you can write music so great that you can write off music Midnight ,echo or crushing day as cheese then I'm really impressed. Personally I rate sufing with the alien as one of the best albums I've ever heard.
Besides, the best thing about many B movies is the music, can't wait for the weepy endings , you know the heart warming father meets long lost son, alien erupts out of son's backside and showers everyone with deadly spore encounters.. Such Pathos.

Here are two more underated votes:

the hellecasters (3 tremendously talented players)
Ed Wynne from Ozric Tentacles (Curious Corn is one of my fave albums)
If I couldn't laugh at myself how could I laugh at someone less ridiculous?

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I'm no vegan I love cheese, especially the stuff with garlic in it. If you can write music so great that you can write off music Midnight ,echo or crushing day as cheese then I'm really impressed. Personally I rate sufing with the alien as one of the best albums I've ever heard.
Besides, the best thing about many B movies is the music, can't wait for the weepy endings , you know the heart warming father meets long lost son, alien erupts out of son's backside and showers everyone with deadly spore encounters.. Such Pathos.

Here are two more underated votes:

the hellecasters (3 tremendously talented players)
Ed Wynne from Ozric Tentacles (Curious Corn is one of my fave albums)
If I couldn't laugh at myself how could I laugh at someone less ridiculous?

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Joined: 02/05/02

Posts: 8

Please don't hate me

I have been severely threatened for voicing this opinion before, but I honestly think that Jimi Hendrix wasn't that good. However, I haven't heard everything from him.
Also, other overrated guitarists include: Eric Clapton, Eddie Van Halen (most overrated guitarist ever), Ace Frehley, Angus Young, and Kurt Cobain (I like Nirvana, but come on, he was no guitar whiz)

Underrated: Randy Rhoads, James Hetfield, Dimebag Darrel, Kerry King, Jeff Hanneman, and (on a less heavy side) Jesse Cook, whose amazing accuracy and mastery of technique along with his style variety ranging from flamenco to classical amazes me.
Rhoads was a great musician, Hetfield is the driving musical force of Metallica and a great player who is sometimes overshadowed by Kirk Hammett's popuarity, and Pantera and Slayer may not be the most musical bands in the traditional sense, but they still have talent.

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Please don't hate me

I have been severely threatened for voicing this opinion before, but I honestly think that Jimi Hendrix wasn't that good. However, I haven't heard everything from him.
Also, other overrated guitarists include: Eric Clapton, Eddie Van Halen (most overrated guitarist ever), Ace Frehley, Angus Young, and Kurt Cobain (I like Nirvana, but come on, he was no guitar whiz)

Underrated: Randy Rhoads, James Hetfield, Dimebag Darrel, Kerry King, Jeff Hanneman, and (on a less heavy side) Jesse Cook, whose amazing accuracy and mastery of technique along with his style variety ranging from flamenco to classical amazes me.
Rhoads was a great musician, Hetfield is the driving musical force of Metallica and a great player who is sometimes overshadowed by Kirk Hammett's popuarity, and Pantera and Slayer may not be the most musical bands in the traditional sense, but they still have talent.

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Joined: 08/10/01

Posts: 882

"I'm no vegan I love cheese, especially the stuff with garlic in it. If you can write music so great that you can write off music Midnight ,echo or crushing day as cheese then I'm really impressed. Personally I rate sufing with the alien as one of the best albums I've ever heard.
Besides, the best thing about many B movies is the music, can't wait for the weepy endings , you know the heart warming father meets long lost son, alien erupts out of son's backside and showers everyone with deadly spore encounters.. Such Pathos."

Heh..lol... Midnight is OK, it's nothing amaizing (it reminds me of some of the dance/ trance music... and in my oppionion there's loads of solo guitar classical/ celtic stuff which a lot better) ... the album is definetly the worst thing I've heard (seriously)... I mean Stach is a great guitarist technically, but really he's got that talent where he can like write catchy mobile phone ring tones,nothing too deep... do you know what I mean?
There's no serious emotion on that album... I mean listen to "hope" by REM,, one of the best pieces of music I know, that's because it conveys emotion well (it's slow and not very technical)...
Secondly the reason I dont like b-movie music is it's predictability, and the fact it avoids putting anything new to you... and it lacks any feeling of sencerity or like this is due to a real experience (be it sad or happy)... it just has that horrible artificail taste with it... I mean if you wanna do something and get really fast at it and not convey any emotion, you may aswell take up basket weaving or touch typing...

That's all just my oppinion so dont lose anysleep over it...:)

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"I'm no vegan I love cheese, especially the stuff with garlic in it. If you can write music so great that you can write off music Midnight ,echo or crushing day as cheese then I'm really impressed. Personally I rate sufing with the alien as one of the best albums I've ever heard.
Besides, the best thing about many B movies is the music, can't wait for the weepy endings , you know the heart warming father meets long lost son, alien erupts out of son's backside and showers everyone with deadly spore encounters.. Such Pathos."

Heh..lol... Midnight is OK, it's nothing amaizing (it reminds me of some of the dance/ trance music... and in my oppionion there's loads of solo guitar classical/ celtic stuff which a lot better) ... the album is definetly the worst thing I've heard (seriously)... I mean Stach is a great guitarist technically, but really he's got that talent where he can like write catchy mobile phone ring tones,nothing too deep... do you know what I mean?
There's no serious emotion on that album... I mean listen to "hope" by REM,, one of the best pieces of music I know, that's because it conveys emotion well (it's slow and not very technical)...
Secondly the reason I dont like b-movie music is it's predictability, and the fact it avoids putting anything new to you... and it lacks any feeling of sencerity or like this is due to a real experience (be it sad or happy)... it just has that horrible artificail taste with it... I mean if you wanna do something and get really fast at it and not convey any emotion, you may aswell take up basket weaving or touch typing...

That's all just my oppinion so dont lose anysleep over it...:)

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Joined: 10/31/01

Posts: 611

Typing.. baskete weaving? There might be some truth in that! Raw technical practice is a very bad substitute for inspiration, truth is I spend a lot of time just practising technique, just like I used to practice touch typing, it keeps the hands occupied so you don't realise how bored you are. At least that way you know you are improving on some level. I feel that technical prowess is the only way to objectively separate guitarists but that doesn't mean I prefer mindless shred to listen to. All this shredding can be so dull, every now and again I go through phases of just wanting to give up and do something else, come to think of it I'm a bit short on baskets. Boo hooo.... anyone sell new lives? Too bored. Come on somebody, inspire me!
If I couldn't laugh at myself how could I laugh at someone less ridiculous?

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Typing.. baskete weaving? There might be some truth in that! Raw technical practice is a very bad substitute for inspiration, truth is I spend a lot of time just practising technique, just like I used to practice touch typing, it keeps the hands occupied so you don't realise how bored you are. At least that way you know you are improving on some level. I feel that technical prowess is the only way to objectively separate guitarists but that doesn't mean I prefer mindless shred to listen to. All this shredding can be so dull, every now and again I go through phases of just wanting to give up and do something else, come to think of it I'm a bit short on baskets. Boo hooo.... anyone sell new lives? Too bored. Come on somebody, inspire me!
If I couldn't laugh at myself how could I laugh at someone less ridiculous?

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Joined: 08/10/01

Posts: 882

:).. nice to know you have a sense of humour...
seriously though.. what do you do for a living etc etc?
I find insparation musically, ironically, by taking a break from music.. sometime you get bogged down...

Lyrically, um i kinda get political... and yes I do read A LOT of books (yes, it's very teenage, you know to read stuff instead of experiencing it), but insipiration is a really dificult thing to look for..

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:).. nice to know you have a sense of humour...
seriously though.. what do you do for a living etc etc?
I find insparation musically, ironically, by taking a break from music.. sometime you get bogged down...

Lyrically, um i kinda get political... and yes I do read A LOT of books (yes, it's very teenage, you know to read stuff instead of experiencing it), but insipiration is a really dificult thing to look for..