Originally Posted by: Azraeljust paint yourself a fretboard and write all the notes on it and you will see the shapes i just mentioned

hey thats actually a good idea...

yea i know how to find what notes on what fret, but it just takes me forever to do it. i gotta count from 0 and then up the frets, u noe?

what about the scale forms? for example, if you wanna play the scale in the key of B, using the D scale formation, how do you know in a split second where to start and end?