Alright, if you want to turn this into a big deal... I know they released "Snuff the Punk" in '92. I don't know when you saw the show with Primus, but why does it matter? So they weren't too professional at the time. So they weren't any good at live performance. I didn't think they sounded too good at a live performance I saw of theirs a little over a year ago on TV. But how does this affect their abilities to make music in the studio, and what does it have to do with Truby, their new guy who really knows his stuff, which is all this thread was about in the first place?