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SLY
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12/23/2003 8:43 pm
Originally posted by Lordathestrings
I find it puzzling that the Palestinians are neither welcomed, nor granted citizenship by any of the Arab nations, yet they are constantly used by those same Arab nations as an example of Israeli evil.


It's agreed amongst arabs (namely palestinians themselves) , not to offer palestinians any other nationality , to reserve their national identy active forever as Palestinians , and support their case against Israel , hoping that someday they'll get their rights of their land back.

However , lots of Palestinians live in arab countries , enjoying stuff like financialy aided educations and so , but without been given the full citizenship of that country for the reason I've just mentioned above.

Please, SLY, name me one Arab country that grants full citizenship rights to Jews!


All of them !!!
Since the dawn of civilization till the establishment of their state on an arab land .
If you compared the life of Jews in the whole world to their life in arab nations you'll know what I mean.
I can give you examples of famous Jewish actors, singers, buisness men etc. from my own country -egypt- if you'd like.(I'm talking about pre-israel history of course)

Israel has a significant population of Arabs who enjoy full citizenship rights. And I have never heard of Arabs who live in Israel mounting suicide attacks on Jewish citizens, yet it seems to be a daily occurance that Palestinians decide to invade Jewish civilian areas, armed with bombs and homicidal/suicidal intent. Please explain this. I cannot understand how it is that one Arab population can be so horribly deranged while another is quite content, unless the Palestinian leadership is poisoned with unreasoning hatred.


It's very reasonable and it doesn't have anything to do with the leaders , it's the people.
You go occupy a land , and lands around it , destroy the houses and throw the people away, to establish silly settelment compounds for Jewish people who just arrived from the other side of the planet .... Why don't you imagine yourself in their place for a sec ?

Oops , I didn't mention random firing at civilian compounds , using everything from guns to F16's , Apaches , heavy tanks , etc. which leaves tons of civilians killed and their families sleeping in the streets.

On the other hand , palestinians who are Israeli citizens don't suffer the hellish situations as palestinians who are labeled "refugees" .
If nobody destroyed your house , kill your family member(s) , you don't need to revenge , yeah ?

Can you see how simple is a solution ?
Moamar Qaddafi , the Lybian leader, who non-arguably enjoys a significant amount of stupidity found a solution !!
Which is as simple as allowing the refugees back , and making one country for both people !
BTW, he called the new country "Isratine" ! :D LOL

Please consider your answer carefully. I am sufficiently removed from the situation that I do not believe the 'accepted truths' of either side.


"accepted truths" ???
You mean like "the promised land" holy crap ?! :rolleyes:
As you can see , I never looked at that conflict from a religious point of view , because I believe that if everybody thought too much religion , it's hard to imagine living together in peace.

I like to look at it from a humanitarian point of view , like this :
People with the same regligious believe from all around the world decided to takeover a piece of land from their current owners to satisfy their religious myths.
The western society had been very evil and brutal to those people , and commited so many horrible crimes against them ... After WW2 finished , the west felt guilty , so in order to pay the debt & make it up to the People , they decide to help them achieve their religious myths of the so called "promised land".
The People go buy portions of that land , occupy the rest of it by force , turning the folks who lived there into refugees.
Unlike the Western societies , Arab societies never did anything wrong to those People , so they don't feel guilty or in debt to those People ... As a matter of fact , those People were handed a piece of the arab land from another western colonialist occupier whom should have handed it to the arabs as the rest of the occupied territories.
And so , the never ending crap continues.

Don't you agree that I should consider writing short stories for children ? :p