Most Overrated Guitarists


Slow Diver
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02/21/2003 3:56 pm
Zak Wylde plays too much standard stuff. And his image is of a standard rock bastard. Everything around him smells of 80's hair metal chiche stuff.
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02/21/2003 4:03 pm
No. What is this?
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02/21/2003 4:52 pm
Speedball is some fantastic guitar playing from Zakk
Download it.

Overated, I don't really care, anyone within Nu Metal is overrated.
Kerry King, Kirk Hammet err thats all I can really think of right now. There's hundreds of them out there.

Underated, as far as respect goes - Jason Becker, Alexi Lahio, Anreas Kisser. Thats about it for now

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02/21/2003 9:05 pm
7 thing´s you need to know about mr. Zakk Wylde

You guys need to get more into Zakk´s mind to really understand him. First of all he HATES all that hair band stuff and was forced to have it on early Ozzy album pics. However he refused to wear make up.

Zakk is an AMAZING guitar player. I like evrything by him especially Ozzy´s first two albums. Also he´s one of those guys who have an very good rock voice. Kind of brutal.

As aiwas said, his vibrato and AH-technique kills. Somtimes I would say, man this got to be a vibrato bar but NO, it´s just fingers. Also what I like about him is his outstanding alternate pickin´ technique and he´s tone is fu*ckin´ great.

Bullseye guitar´s rock, beats evry other Gibson out there.

Despite his speed, Zakk have tones of feeling. I would say that he´s at the same level as Slash but can beat hell out off Slash with his overall technique.

Zakk´s stage preformence is fuc*kin´ amazing. He really kicks a*s*s and give 100% evrytime.

Zakk´s definitly NOT one of those 80´s guitar players. I mean, he´s B.I.G. looks like a cave man, drinks beer instead of drugs, fu*ck´s only his wife instead of porno stars and if Ozzy like´s him, than he´s must be a great person.

BTW, does anyone know the secret behind Zakk´s sound?
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02/21/2003 9:26 pm
I don´t know but I think that If I would have to compare my sound it would be somthing like Zakk´s. I use BOSS SD1 and play it through Marshall AVT100. Reason why it´s pretty close (I think) is ´cause I use dist on dist and like while soloin´ to turn on wah and have it around the middle position. I never do constant WAHWAHWAHWAH, I mostly use it a little bit especially when playn´ fast and than when bending I usualy go whole the way.

I found out that through doing this, the pick sound gets (when pickin´ fast) sticks out pretty much and I like it.

Of course Petrucci´s and Vai´s sound are probably the greatest out there but who can afford 50.000$ just for guitar equipment, lol.
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02/21/2003 10:10 pm
Originally posted by Sam101
Overated, I don't really care, anyone within Nu Metal is overrated.
Kerry King, Kirk Hammet err thats all I can really think of right now. There's hundreds of them out there.


Yeah , Kerry King is realy overrated (he doesn't get so much credit though) ... I don't rate someone like him as a guitarist at all , may be nice rhythm , but playing random notes with tremolo picking is certainly not good Lead playing .
Any dumba$$ with one year of guitar experience can play any of his "solos" (I feel like sh*t when I have to call these things he does "solos" !).
I don't like Hanneman's playing as well, but compared to King , Hanneman is a little bit underrated.


Underated, as far as respect goes - Jason Becker, Alexi Lahio, Anreas Kisser. Thats about it for now


Andreas Kisser , is that the guy from Sepultura ?? He isn't very good to claim he's underrated ... If you know some good stuff that may be I haven't heard of please let me know.
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02/22/2003 8:57 am
Ok, maybe I'm wrong about my opinion of Zak Wylde, but it is based on what I have heard and seen. And it is what he does with ozzy, not all the stuff but a great deal. my impression of him is of a typical 80's guitarplayer. I used to be a great fan of this kind of style 4 years ago but I have changed since then, and it is natural for everybody to evolve in his tastes. In fact I still have many of Ozzy's albums but haven't listened them for years.
I DO respect him because of his technique, cuz I know(have an idea) what tremendous amount of effort it requires to acheive that level.
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02/22/2003 3:20 pm
Originally posted by Dejan Sajinovic
7 thing´s you need to know about mr. Zakk Wylde

You guys need to get more into Zakk´s mind to really understand him. First of all he HATES all that hair band stuff and was forced to have it on early Ozzy album pics. However he refused to wear make up.

Zakk is an AMAZING guitar player. I like evrything by him especially Ozzy´s first two albums. Also he´s one of those guys who have an very good rock voice. Kind of brutal.

As aiwas said, his vibrato and AH-technique kills. Somtimes I would say, man this got to be a vibrato bar but NO, it´s just fingers. Also what I like about him is his outstanding alternate pickin´ technique and he´s tone is fu*ckin´ great.

Bullseye guitar´s rock, beats evry other Gibson out there.

Despite his speed, Zakk have tones of feeling. I would say that he´s at the same level as Slash but can beat hell out off Slash with his overall technique.

Zakk´s stage preformence is fuc*kin´ amazing. He really kicks a*s*s and give 100% evrytime.

Zakk´s definitly NOT one of those 80´s guitar players. I mean, he´s B.I.G. looks like a cave man, drinks beer instead of drugs, fu*ck´s only his wife instead of porno stars and if Ozzy like´s him, than he´s must be a great person.


he's a great player brimming over with talent. and he's a straightforward guy who is just his brutal self 100 percent of the time. and "Speedball" will really help you see his talent. i don't really like his personality too much but i respect and support him all the way. just because he's a brutally honest guy who just gives his best without any bullsh*t whatsoever.
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02/23/2003 3:15 pm
Originally posted by Dejan Sajinovic
7 thing´s you need to know about mr. Zakk Wylde


Zakk´s stage preformence is fuc*kin´ amazing. He really kicks a*s*s and give 100% evrytime.





Yah,I saw him at Ozzfet first with BLS and then with Ozzy and he was increadible, His solo with Ozzy had everyones jaws on the floor.

I don't really know how to post pics yet but bear with me this is Zakks Setup, he uses 8550 tubes in his JCM800's


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02/23/2003 3:22 pm
Originally posted by SLY
Andreas Kisser , is that the guy from Sepultura ?? He isn't very good to claim he's underrated ... If you know some good stuff that may be I haven't heard of please let me know. [/B]


He's not really the cream of the crop, im not talking about how good player he is, im talking here about what he as done or music. Listen to Beneath the Remains and Arise, his riffs and melodies (check out Desprerate Cry on Arise) his solos are manic but some are impressive but he's a trillion time better than Kerry King, most people think he's good because he wrote Raining Blood and Angel Of Death, two Thrash classics but unfortunatly this is not the case, Jeff Hanneman wrote both of them.
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02/23/2003 7:15 pm
Zakk is good yes I know. I wasn't trying to put anyone down, so relax everyone. I do like alot of his stuff and yes speedball is good, I just think that he is a dick. But he is really a good guitar player but I think that he's not as good as Tony from Black Sabbath


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[Edited by Twist of Fate on 02-23-2003 at 05:29 PM]
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02/23/2003 11:17 pm
What´s a rotovibe pedal for (the red one)?
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02/24/2003 5:00 am
the secret of zakk wylde is as he said in guitar world
hella practice
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02/24/2003 1:33 pm
Zakk Wylde practises for a hell of a long time. and now he's terrific. makes sense to me.
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02/24/2003 1:37 pm
Originally posted by aiwass
Originally posted by Twist of Fate
Zakk is good yes I know. I wasn't trying to put anyone down, so relax everyone. I do like alot of his stuff and yes speedball is good, I just think that he is a dick. But he is really a good guitar player but I think that he's not as good as Tony from Black Sabbath


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[Edited by Twist of Fate on 02-23-2003 at 05:29 PM]



ROFL. I'd like to see Tony play "Speedball". Or any ZW solo for that matter...


two things here man.
one, i agree with you completely about Zakk. he IS a dick, but he's a terrific player and he's got no bull**** about him.
two, i think that Zakk is much more skilled than Tony Iommi will ever be. i mean, i like Tony Iommi and Sabbath music a lot. bottom line: Tony just isn't nearly as technically skilled as Zakk is.
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02/24/2003 6:31 pm
And Tony Iomi is with a sligh disability...
Imagine what a player would have he been if he had all his fingers in the right places.
And furthermore guitar playing is certainly not only about being technically skilled, let's not start this all over again.
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02/24/2003 8:00 pm
Another famous guitarist with hand injuries was Django Reinhardt, jazz player in 30s/40s (I think). He was this gypsy dude whose hand got burned when his caravan caught fire. He lost his 2 middle fingers I think. Nonetheless, some years later the famous classical guitarist Andres Segovia heard him play and asked where he could get some of his music from. He was told that he couldn't, it was improvised... Respect!!
Under-rated, Shaun Baxter. I listened to Satriani for years before I heard him and had acclimatised to being demoralised by widdley playing but this guy REALLY scared the crap out of me. What's'more nobody else sounds like him. It's really jazzy yet heavy with tons of freaky expressive bending, sweeps, taps and pinches and the oddest timings conceivable. Some people would say its soul-less but that's not always the case, he can play beautiful music when he's not playing stunt guitar.
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