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01/27/2003 12:44 pm
I saw this guy Paus on a swedish program once (think it was an "amazing artist" show called coloseum or something) and I couldn't believe my own eyes. He sounded like a god damn keyboard shifting notes without distinct keychanging. But I doubt that he could do 64th notes in 300 bpm.. I mean, I've been playing on speed for a while and I can barely play 32nd notes in 130-140 bpm. It's not human, it's no need to argue about it. =)
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01/27/2003 1:40 pm
I guess this speed thing is abit like science;
there's the science that's persued for the sake of pursuing science,science that won't help improve your life in any way,stuff that's done for the phuck of it.
Then there's science that actually helps improve human life.My comparison to the former is some technique you learn just for the phuck of it(like the fastest you can play,or the longest you can hold your breath,for that matter),and the technique that you learn and use it to better express yourself musically.
So,yeah,64ths at 300 aren't human,but you can try to do it just for the sake of doing it.
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01/27/2003 5:35 pm
playing that fast is just good craziness. i think it's cool that he pushed himself to be that fast(even though the numbers are probably a bit fudged).
i'm always pushing my fretboard speed to the max but i have a long way to go before i'm 'fast'.
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01/27/2003 8:08 pm
Reaching 300bpm and playnĀ“ it tight can be very hard.

It isnĀ“t impossible if itĀ“s short like PetrucciĀ“s video lick. I had it in my head that I couldnĀ“t play Bumblebee faster than 220 but my friend pushed me on all the way to 250 but hard to get it 100% all the way. I play Petruccis verision and itĀ“s about 20-30 sec. of non stop ultimate shred.

Still for me I think I could reach 260 (Petruccis video lick) and maby 270 if I really push my self but 300, I donĀ“t think so. But belive me 250 is hyper speed. If I could play any kind of 16-note licks at 250, I would be worlds greatest guitar player but thatĀ“s IMPOSSIBLE.

I would LOVE to see maniac shred him self through PaganinĀ“s 5 caprice (mostly 16-notes) at 250. wrrrrooommm.

But, keep the struggle Aiwas.

And about string gauge 0,09-0,45 DĀ“Addario. Very smooth.
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01/27/2003 8:12 pm
Man 64-notes at 300 imposible, I donĀ“t care what he have atached to his guitar I donĀ“t belive it. I saw it to Coluseum when he play but I canĀ“t remember much of it. But 64 notes, good luck. Not even with legato our any technique except maby Gilberts electric drill technique.
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01/27/2003 8:23 pm
Aiwas, Petruccis final run isnĀ“t really 16-notes at 290. The are separated at groups of 11.

ItĀ“s like:

---------------------------------16-17-18|19-19-18-17-16---
----------------16-17-18-19--------------|--------and so on
15-16-17-18------------------------------|-----------------
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01/27/2003 10:13 pm
Jason Becker shreds through Paganini's Fifth Caprice. i have the video, it's pretty awesome!
To improve technique and of course trying to keep all as clean as possible. I know my own limits and speed limits and so on I never play anything I'm not capable of. That wouldn't make any sense. After three years of playing I tried to play everything as fast as possible and that sounded, I would say, like shit, and I didn't realize that if I'd play bit slower things than I was capable of playing then everything would sound much better.

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01/27/2003 10:19 pm
you can download it off the net, i used WinMX to get it.
To improve technique and of course trying to keep all as clean as possible. I know my own limits and speed limits and so on I never play anything I'm not capable of. That wouldn't make any sense. After three years of playing I tried to play everything as fast as possible and that sounded, I would say, like shit, and I didn't realize that if I'd play bit slower things than I was capable of playing then everything would sound much better.

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01/30/2003 6:44 pm
I don't use a certain gauge or any piece of equip just cuz someone famous use'em ... I've tried light Vs heavy gauge personaly & I found the heavier gives better tone , most people say so too.

And Mr. Lanes sweet tone may depends on other factors like amp , pickups , effects , his settings , etc. ... Also his tone might get even better if he switches to heavier gauge, who knows ?!
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01/30/2003 11:09 pm
I have Jasons video too. ItĀ“s pretty shi*tty sound but who cares the guy rocks. Still he dosenĀ“t play it as fast as I have a record by a guy who play it on violin but itĀ“s damn cool.

I also have JasonĀ“s Black Star verision wich is from his school time, a guitar solo from Cacophany from Japan and some Serrana video clips. And thereĀ“s only one word to describe Jason=GOD.
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01/30/2003 11:54 pm
yeah i have those vids as well. he is amazing, his stuff even after his ALS diagnosis is mind blowing.
To improve technique and of course trying to keep all as clean as possible. I know my own limits and speed limits and so on I never play anything I'm not capable of. That wouldn't make any sense. After three years of playing I tried to play everything as fast as possible and that sounded, I would say, like shit, and I didn't realize that if I'd play bit slower things than I was capable of playing then everything would sound much better.

--Aleksi Laiho - Advice to Play By
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01/31/2003 2:57 am
Originally posted by aiwass
...you would hear that the thinner strings sound more fluid, while the heavier strings sound punchier, more in-your face...
Well said.

I enjoy the solid presence I get from heavier strings. I get fluidity from the use of legato techniques, and by 'stroking' the strings with my pick, instead of plucking them.
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01/31/2003 11:35 am
Yeah, I like that more In-Your-Face tone ... That's why I use 2.0mm picks , for the heavy attack & the punch I get with this , & I like more presence from the amp too... That's what I refer to as better tone (IMHO).
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02/01/2003 5:17 pm
what do you think should be the lowest gauge for the high e string?
i mean, like some people just think that 8 is too low because of lack of tone or strength. i think 9 is a bit too much as well. i think 10 is the best gauge because it balances strength with small size without going over on both sides. not too heavy, not too small. good sustain.
what do you think?
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02/01/2003 11:08 pm
10's are the lowest gauge I'll ever use with my guitars.
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02/02/2003 12:21 am
I use the the ernie ball hybrid sets that have a heavy bottom and a light top,I think they are 10-52's I also have my back up guitar set up but with a heavier E string because I like a heavier top especially for rhthym playing.I have to try that GHS set that Zakk endorses.
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02/02/2003 2:18 pm
the strings that Zakk uses are crazy. 10-60. he also has another set that is 11-70 for his low-tunings. i'll get those to show off, not to actually use. i'd be like, look at this craziness. good stuff.
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02/02/2003 4:53 pm
Originally posted by aiwass
Dick Dale uses 18-70. In standard tuning.
:eek: Those aren't strings - they're coat hangers!
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02/02/2003 7:51 pm
dick dale uses 18-70's? damn those ain't coat hangers,those are bridge cables!!!
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02/03/2003 9:03 am
Originally posted by aiwass
Dick Dale uses 18-70. In standard tuning.

Then what does he do with the old ones when he buys bew ones?Give them to his kids to skip rope?
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