Thanks for all the help. I've been to San Diego Neal it was nice , loved the weather there. Saw lots of sand dunes before crossing the mountains that was a trip on my motorcycle was ready to be on the other side. LOL. I started doing the ones that Compart suggested they seem to be helping . Did those off and on all weekend just to get my fingers going. Can tell it's helping my fingers get sore. have been practicing about 2 hours tonite. Going slow at it just trying to get the basics down. Working on House of the Rising Sun now on the lower and middle strings. Then get the joy of starting cords. Did A major a bit hard to get my fingers crammed in tried different finger arrangements. Again thanks , all help appreciated .