I'll keep practicing. It's nice to know that others believe eventually it will come. I did just start with the spider fingers exercise. It was very helpful both in that tutorial and Chris' fundamentals class to understand the correct placement or use of the thumb. When I first began learning I thought my hands were way too small but I realize now my reach is much better than I thought if I don't try to wrap my thumb around the neck. The guys with huge hands that were teaching me did not see what I was doing and did not go into such detail on the small things that can make such a difference. I'm learning so much more since I have joined the full access and started the GT lessons. Thanks for the great tips.