What Pony said really hit the spot for me. I was just getting really irritated with all the so an so can play this or that and they are only 2 years old, in any key timing instrument, backwards forwards etc. The whole thing about people and ibanez's trying to be the next "shock" by imitating the same lame. I go through this in my life; someone says "you should see "bill" he can play excellent by ear Alice in Chains and everything!!!". Then I meet the guy he's an addict that poorly plays the same song over an over out of tune, and is completely musically illiterate has bad timing and slopy ear, but he has the drug dealer 80's audacity, bad hair look with tight pants and ear ring to convince a few inbred people that he is a god. This used to get right under my skin, now when someone starts to go on an on about someone I ignore them, proof is in the pudding-let them step up and play, leave the talk-just be honest and play where yer at. Male or female stop competting and play your part honestly. (hockey players trying to be musicians-arrrrg!)