How to Play Jazz II


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01/11/2002 11:14 pm
Originally posted by nechako
and then a few hours of Yebula meditation.


that's the interesting part...
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01/12/2002 4:05 am
IN Yebula one has infinite probability of melody not even restricted to the 12 chromatic notes.
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01/12/2002 4:33 am
Aaah, so that's how you play jazz!
Actually, Charlie Parker was another one of those cupboard guys. He was playing in a nightclub when a fairly well respected sax player made a criticism of his playing. He then spent something like 24 hours straight practising and blew the guys mind next time he heard him. Can't remember the details, but it is a true story.
"Dozens of people spontaneously combust each year, it's just not that widely reported".
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01/12/2002 5:05 am
should we out speak our fellow man/women or speak with them communicating teaching? Is music a competition or artform? In training I learned it only takes one shot to hit a target not a thousand.
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01/21/2002 2:56 pm
Aaah, so I'm not the only one with dream music that makes me want to give up life for a few years and play guitar instead... Oh, such tempting thoughts... Do we really need food and air and stuff?
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01/21/2002 9:01 pm
one must maintain and respect the body and meet one's needs and resposibilities in order to attain enlightenment of Yebula. You know food rent bills etc. I don't see it as taking time away from life studying music I see it as emersing myself in life, the life I want to live, and the universe follows with support for this commitement. Yebula enlightenment isn't a destination or skill level, its a realization of the process of life/music and a true acceptance and joy of that with all the ups and downs.

[Edited by nechako on 01-21-2002 at 04:06 PM]
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01/21/2002 9:04 pm
Originally posted by nechako
one must maintain and respect the body and meet one's needs and resposibilities in order to attain enlightenment of Yebula.


SO DON'T you eat Big macs....
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01/21/2002 9:08 pm
mclean deluxes, 'bib' macs, all dat good stuff. I'm not a holliwood monk, I am an existing one, he who exists in this world.

[Edited by nechako on 01-21-2002 at 04:12 PM]
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01/21/2002 10:44 pm
....or anything else for that matter can be summed up by Thomas Edison...


"Genius is 1% inspiration, and 99% perspiration"


That's The secret to playing guitar and the secret to life.

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01/21/2002 11:20 pm
Is that why so many self inflated genius's stink? And there are no secrets to life only people who have the audacity to maintain the illusion that there is, to fool others into thinking that they are more than human, and should be worshiped and bragged about; as soon as you search you move away from the truth into illusion,..."we are searching for something that has already found us.." ; who said dat dawgs.

[Edited by nechako on 01-21-2002 at 06:25 PM]
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01/22/2002 6:14 am
self inflated geniuses aren't geniuses...
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01/22/2002 1:07 pm
Originally posted by nechako
Is that why so many self inflated genius's stink?

[Edited by nechako on 01-21-2002 at 06:25 PM]



self inflated geniuses? I lost you.
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01/22/2002 9:04 pm
self inflated meaning the person has the attitude and audacity to convince you they are something special however they are full of Ka Ka. You know the one ,the guy in high school that could play a few bars of ice nine or metalica and everyone bragged that they knew him but looking back he couldn't play dirt didly, but he had the tea shirt, long hair, drug addiction and cool lingo of a "rock" star: woops sorry I'm going off on my 80's rock bashing again.
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01/22/2002 10:53 pm
Well The point of my post was to illustrate the wisdom of Edison's quote. Think about it, No matter how "gifted" a player is, There is not one Pro out there who has not practiced for thousands or hundreds of thousands of hours.They may have had the "germ" of a unique idea , but without the refinement of that through practice their contributions/ "genius" would never have been recognized.

Nobody, Not, Dimeola,Henderson, Hendrix, Satch,McLaughlin,Segovia, etc... simply picked up a guitar one day and blew everyone away, just like Michael Jordan didn't become the greatest ever without shooting thousands of free throws.

I guess the point is, with a little luck and A LOT of hard work , success can come to almost everybody, however you define success.

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01/22/2002 11:19 pm
I am glad someone out there brought this up, and explained it very well. When I was younger I was always intimidated by people who could put on the facade that they were born able to play anything they wanted by some miracle and blessing that no one but them had and they must be worshiped. Hoey! Every one must crawl before walking no exceptions, I found out later that these people practiced the same stuff over and over for years, and when they said they were playing something from ear on the spot it was from memory and they were fooling musicaly illiterate people to inflate their egos, I know because I tested them on it; I would play a simple jazz progression and say " well then play this,...I very rarely met someone who could,..unless they were humble read music studied properly and were honest. People who play just with their ears must tear the hell out of their ear lobes, I encourage my students to strum with a pick.
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01/22/2002 11:29 pm
You can also sell your soul to the devil. I'm too dang lazy to work for years....

I actually believe that geniuses, even though they need to work, get way more results in the same amount of time. Someone has brought up Jaco. He learned to sight read in ONE YEAR!! Come on, guys work 8 to 12 years to have a decent reading skill... I could go on and on about those exemples.
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01/23/2002 10:00 pm
I learned to sight read in about the same amount of time and I am no genious, I just kept at it. A good method helps, Aaron Shearer's classical method works. All a genious is is someone who has a little more r.a.m on there computer, how you use the info is important. Three notes by BB king can blow the socks off any 3 year old prodigy that can play every mozart tune like a good little juke box. Oh and the devil's promises never pan out just look at Telsa, Toto, and a host of other 80's bands that sold their souls.
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