I appreciate the advice. I havent given up, i have worked on it for 5-10 minutes a night, thn move on, but i kind of feel stuck with my progression, until i get it down... A freind told me about d tuning, where by using just the bar, and the lower strings, or thicker strings, makes the chords that a bar would, does that make sense??? and when i said lower strings, i meant the higher sounding strings, but from where im sitting, looking at this guitar, they appear lower.. and thanks alot chris, your vids are awesome, im enjoying learning, and you do a decent job teaching, i would tell you that you awesome, rather than decent, but i dont want you to get a big head or anything.. lol...