this posting biz is pretty new to me.but hey watever it take to win one of those lps. i'll try. just learning to play after 40 years of wishing i could.i finally deside to take this serouis enough to take some lessons. and it looks like I might get it down after all.though still trying to fit it all into a tight budget.I swaped out work for lessons, took pictures of people making cords,and recording live jams on my cell phone.and bout the best thing I'v found sofor is the free lessons on this site.Will be signning up for full member in afew weeks.