Originally Posted by: jamesplaysgitarnah see....
you cant put somthing like, lamb of god, and acdc in the same category.
they sound COMPLETELY different.

and as far as black sabbath and such sounding "heavy" ... what are you smoking?

old rock bands may have been called metal, but they arent anymore.

just like a proggressive band in the 1950's, would be the most cliched thing in the world now.

jamesplaysguitar are you for real dude or just s@#t stirring? If you are for real, then I guess you are the kind of person that likes a good argument with anyone that actually cares? So for what it's worth I'm gonna get a bit philosophical with you...

Labelling any kind of metal music "real" over some other kind is purely an ego trip. It probably means that you are insecure about some genres of metal and therefore feel a need to protect your views about what you perceive is "real" instead of having an open mind and listening to people that really know what they are talking about (like Superhuman for instance) from experience.

Now I'm not saying that there isn't a place for "Lamb of God" etc (BTW I love Opeth), but man it's horses for courses, and everything is "real" (unless everything is in fact "not real") in this world and the way to learn about it is to experience it and embrace it. You don't have to like it but you should accept it. No use telling people something stupid like Iron Maiden or Black Sabbath isn't heavy because it always was and always will be. And if it never was, Lamb of God would never have been.

Now, when you next go to the thread you posted elsewhere on this site asking about Jazz guitarists, I have given you a link to something you might like. Given you appear to be into heavier stuff, I will also suggest that you have a listen to any of Mike Patton's side projects (such as Fantomas, Mr Bungle, Tomahawk) that integrate modern metal with many other genres to come up with something slightly more intelligent and interesting than "Cookie Monster Metal". :)

Happy trails...