why not both? I know alot of bands are mistaken for punk when they are not, but they are a couple New Punk bands that are good and stay to the roots of punk. Anti-Flag, and Rise Against although they don't sound too much like the old true punk, they stay to what punk meant and thats what makes them punk. To me what makes someone punk isn't the music as much as the beliefs. Of course music has a hefty part. Still old green day was good and you cannot deny it. MxPx was okayyyy, pretty good, but still....