I don't know.... Anyways, DF's albums are not recorded with a keyboard, they just use alot of effects. You can't expect their live shows to be as good as the albums, that's unrealistic. The only guitar player that I know that sounds just like an album when he plays is Slash. (when he played for GnR of course). I wouldn't be judging their sloppiness when they play in concert because I bet that a very select few people can even come close to the speed and technicality of their music. I think that the music is fun to listen to, but I also think that all of their lyrics are the exact same. I only like a few of their songs, but I like those ones so much that I like the band. Most of their songs are mediocre though.