go to for example http://cleveland.craigslist.org/msg/ ...or here www.craigslist.org then find a city close to you, go to musical instruments and then go try the sucker out..that is what is great about this site, you can go to it and try it and then buy right from the person..I don't think I will buy anything new again :rolleyes: you might find a deal like this amp...regularly $1,250
sweet deal