Originally Posted by: grizzlymintI'm gonna have to ask, in what sense is Bush a war criminal? Theres been no reports that hes been targetting women and children or others who are "innocent." He hasn't used excessive force in any way at all. (for example, nuclear power, chemical warfare, etc.) He's made no attacks on civilians. Only thing that he has done that is questionable is gotten into the wrong war with the wrong country. However, that country still harbors terrorists, had a tyrranical leader who was a murderer, wreckless, and at least at one time had biological weapons/wmd's. I wouldn't say in any sense hes a war criminal.

Lots of people like to say "wrong war, wrong time" about our current situation in Iraq. In retrospect, that may look as if it is the case, but back not too long after 9/11, we were looking for vengeance after our men, women,and children were murdered on our own soil for no apparent reason aside from a few guys who were extreme about the teachings of their religion. People like former presidential candidate John Kerry were even supporting this war. Then a year later he was up on stage next to Bush condemning.

The US government has a lot on their plates right now, between North Korea, Iran, and other countries in the middle east who would like nothing more than to erase us from the face of the planet. "Wrong war, wrong time" is nothing more than a statement made by a monday morning quarterback.

Far too many assumptions there. The allied forces invaded Iraq, so they are bringing the war. Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11, has it been avenged? They may not be targetting women and children but they're managing to kill them either way, and the force can be judged as excessive I would think - US hardware Vs Iraqi harware... not much of a fight (Legal definitions not withstanding). Would the terrorists be fighting if there was no-one to fight?

All I've really been going for all this time is that I don't think there are any absolutes. We don't know anything about what's going on, all we know is what we are told...

Worry about the extremist mosque down the street, not Iran. Worry about why people do these things - if it wasn't religion, it would be some thing else.

Back to the beginning. Saddam has been executed for ordering the murder of 148 citizens in Dujail. You telling me Bush hasn't ordered at least that number? surely with the figures as they are, he would have known about at least that many?