Originally Posted by: strat-manSome interesting points guys, but i'm amazed no one has yet mentioned the most obvious and real cause of global warming, and its got nothin to do with cfc's, cars, industry or any other reason Tony Blair can think of to tax uk motorists to death! quite simply the earth doesn't move in a true circle around the sun, it moves in eccentric circles (think of the kids drawing toy 'spiragraph') and over periods of millions of years moves closer to and further away from the sun, hence ice ages and global warming!! its easy really! the place i live (Derby, England) was under water 150 million years or so ago, and will be again one day due to this natural phenomenon of global warming, eventually there will be another ice age followed by more global warming, i mean think about it, how d'ya all think we came out of the last ice age? it certainly weren't with the help of cfc's and the internal combustion engine! THE ONLY reason ANY government can even spell global warming is caus global warming equals an excuse to scare the s**t out of everyone so therefore screw you all out of more taxes, believe me folks, all the taxes in the world AINT gonna stop nature!!

sorry to burst your bubble bro, but scientists take ice core samples dating hundreds of thousands of years back, and like i said before, no natural record in history can make sense of how rapidly we are careening toward distaster. to us its a long ways away; hundreds of years later this will obviously be a much larger issue than it is now, but in the span of natural progression, this is like a bolt of lightning in comparison to how fast our environment is being polluted.