Originally Posted by: stacknyI still dont understand how you can say that we've done anything wrong. Bush has led us into a war against terrorism and thats exactly what weve done. Im not 100% sure what youre saying about limits on the personal freedom, but in times of clear and present danger, certain freedoms must be limited for the good welfare of the country. Whether its the Patriot Act or something else youre talking about, its for the good welfare and safety of the country.

Again, he sent us to Iraq to find Saddam who had no such relation to Bin Laden and 9/11. That's not leading us to a world free of terrorists. That's just contradicting words with actions. If he wants a world free of WMDs then he should be the first to give his up. Not the first to take everyone else's away. It's not right that these weapons exist, but it's still a fact that not he nor anyone else has any such right to go into another country and take away their belongings when no one did anything.

And as far as his decisions for the for freedom and welfare. He stated that there should be limits to personal freedom because he read people expressing their opinion of him in a degrading manner. Basically people insulted him and he said they shouldn't have that right. They shouldn't have the right to express themselves with their own freedom of speech. The limitations in that are routed to things that cause panic like screaming fire in a crowded place. Not telling someone else you think they suck. As for the welfare of the country... well, sending jobs over seas does wonders for our economy and employment levels. I live in Ohio where unemployment is at a record breaking low. How is that helping us all as a whole? So by taking away our right to freedom of speech and sending jobs over seas it's making the country better?

And on the atomic bomb thing, there's no way in hell they didn't know just how destructive those things were before using them. They didn't just snap everything together on their first try and drop the bomb hoping it'd blow up the way they wanted to.

Scientist 1: Well if we plug the DooDad into the whatchamacallit and snap these legos together here and seal it with some play dough it should work. Fire when ready
BOOOOOOOMMMMMM
Scientist 2: Whaoh... was it supposed to destroy the entire city?