thanx for responding to the message stab inthe dark

here is the tab, i got it right off of Schmange's first page on tapping

Fig #1

p h T p h T p h T p h T
|-----------------------------------------------------|
|--{5--8--12}--{5--8--13}--{5--8--15}--{5--8--13}-/---|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
1 4 [1] 1 4 [1] 1 4 [1] 1 4 [1]

if you start with 5 pull off, doesn't 0 ring?