Originally Posted by: Lordathestrings[font=trebuchet ms]The blond tolex crate vintage club 30 from the early 90's is OK, if you replace the speakers. The Blue Voodoo makes OK metal, but sounds bad on anything else. The new V-series may actually be OK. But for the price of the OK amps, you could get just about anything else that sounds better, so why bother? The rest are a total waste of cash.[/font]

How about an example of something better in this price range Lord? instead of just dogging a product you don't care for? I would really like to see your opinion on what you would recomend, other than "anything but Crate".

I personally think that for the money the VC series from Crate are outstanding tonally. Espescially the smaller VC2010R and the VC30112, and the old VC50's(I prefer the real spring reverb over the DSP on the new ones) are great sounding amps. I especially like my VC2110R as it is incredibly portable, and sounds great. I have even gigged with it mic'd up to the pa with excellent results. I'll admit that they aren't perfect, as I don't much care for the pc boards and the way the the tubes are mounted sideways and how big a pain it is to remove the speaker baffle to perform a tube change, and the lack of a cooling fan(the VC20 and VC30's that run in class A get really hot), but again, for the money I can't think of a better bargain...goes from Vox chime to Marshall dirt.