Originally Posted by: 6strngs_2hmbkrsit was at church camp, and we were singing and worshipping... and the presence of God was so strong, that everyone in the room just broke down and cried. there was nothing else you could do, it was that overwhelming... sure half the room was jr. high girls who cry when they see a fly... but there were some guys in there that were the toughest guys you could find, including a former body builder who was once mr. california. and he was crying too... it was just so powerful, and I can't really describe the feeling...

Mr California is also a girl... :D

I almost died laughing yesterday when I asked a guy at work (who is a very committed Christian) whether he believed in things like the hypothetical blind quadriplegic guy who gets touched by one of those cheesy minsters (JEEEESUS!) and starts running around screaming 'I can see!'. :eek:

Seriously, I have no problem with people's beliefs, but the theatre end of it (and the fact people believe it) I find a little disturbing...

My belief is that in situations as described above, the overwhelming feeling is generated by the weight of feeling at a group level, no necessarily the presence of 'God'. I almost cried hearing the Floyd play comfortably numb at live 8 - partially because they're great, and partially because you could see everyone there being moved by it....

It's still cool to get a buzz from a power and depth of feeling, but whether it's God? I have my doubts...

The Opium of the people..... as a hairy man once said...