Originally Posted by: XChris557First of all all music starts sumwer - and i still respect blues more than rap - it might of not been as tuff - and definitly not live shows - but rap started off alot more respectful and talented then it is now - more of them wer talking bout real things or at least not repeating everything every other rapper says all the time - and yeah rap can be as good as what they want to put into it problem is they don't put to much into it[/quote]
Again, you insist on making generalizations that 1. are based on a small selection of what's actually out there and 2. simply aren't true.

Yeah, there isn't very much mainstream Rap out there worth listening to at the moment. There isn't much mainstream Rock (or Country, or Punk, or "Metal") worth listening to, either.

"She Thinks My Tractor is Sexy" is a lot more marketable than Hank Williams III singing about getting thrown out of bars or how the Nashville establishment is a bunch of phonies who care more about money than the music; Good Charlotte is easier to sell than GG Allin; Suburban Legends is more marketable than Streetlight Manifesto; and yes, Nelly goes down a lot easier than Dr. Octogon just like Puddle of Mudd is a lot easier for the masses to listen to than Candiria.

The point is you are no more correct when you say "yeah rap can be as good as what they want to put into it problem is they don't put to much into it" than my grandmother is when she calls Heavy Metal "nothing but a bunch of noise and screaming."

Originally Posted by: XChris557and wats wrong with korn's talent

Not to take anything away from the boys, but their stuff isn't exactly hard to play (or maybe I've been spending too much time playing Primus and Iron Maiden basslines) and they've borrowed heavily from some bands that came before them.

The point not that there's anything wrong with that, it's that what you're saying about Rap is just as easily applied to a lot of the music you listen to.


[QUOTE=XChris557]Does Rap (as a whole) take more talent than ROCK (as a whole) my answer NO - it's definitly rock and i have no clue how u can disagree

Because the answer is neither.

I can sit down right now and crank out a listenable, pathetically easy to play rock song complete with trite, mindless lyrics in about fifteen minutes. If I did it in Dropped D, it might even be a hit.

Of course, that's not how I do things, but it's not hard at all and that sort of thing is pretty popular right now.