Personally I love these guys everything trent puts out is so innovative, through some parts he has 3 or more guitars going with some heavy effects,and his lyrics have me singing with him all the time.lol.anyone seen the video for closer :eek: jawdropped when I saw that.Unfortunatley I havent had the oppurtunity to see the in concert,well then again where I live I'm lucky to get any rock band to come.