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03/24/2005 1:08 am
I'm not saying that you suck at fighting, I'm just saying that in t.v. shows and movies they often have some kind of huge bulky dude with fricken huge muscles versus some small speedy guy, and the small speedy guy usually wins... however, in real life, having big muscles doesn't really make you so slow that someone who was light and speedy, or had karate skills, could dodge every hit, and even if you did liand a few punches on him what makes you think that they'll cause very much damage? let's put it this way, when you are just walking down the street, and you see some dude with muscles that are equal to the size of jean claude van damme's would you pick a fight with him?
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03/24/2005 1:56 am
Originally Posted by: chucklivesoninmyheartWhat makes you think he could hit me?Because I'm not in the movies or don't have trophies or awards of some type?I'm not a recognized fighter?



I think he could kill you not by any fault of your own but simply because he really is a good fighter. He's been doing Shotokan karate since he was ten years old. When he was 18 he was the middleweight tournament champion of the European Professional Karate Association.
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03/24/2005 4:16 am
I fight with my ...wait
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03/24/2005 4:27 am
Originally Posted by: XChris557I fight with my ...wait

that's gotta be painful
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03/24/2005 4:52 am
Originally Posted by: 6strngs_2hmbkrsthat's gotta be painful


U get used to it
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03/24/2005 6:49 am
Originally Posted by: justinhuntblues id say Eric Clapton or B.B. King. (who doesnt automatically know tears in heaven when they hear it or the thrill is gone). listen to riding with the king if youre a blues fan

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03/24/2005 7:54 am
lol,would I pick a fight with a guy with big muscles?NO...would I pick a fight with a guy half my size?NO...why niether?Because I don't pick fights at all.

People who pick fights(besides being insecure punks)are weak and look for victims...they don't look for challenges unless they'er filled with some 'liquid courage'(beer/stupidity).

Shotokan...neat name,belts,image and cool looking moves.Jean has a wall full of belts and awards no doubt.But it isn't going to get him out of a RNC.He is trained to score points,not survive a full contact encounter with no points,saftey,help or doctors standing by.

Ok,heres something a little different...would I get in a ring with van damm in a kickboxing match?Well,I would(that would be exciting),but would I win?I would get taken to the cleaners if I squared of with him in some tournament setting where there are rules,rounds,refs and corner men.If I tried to best him at his 'style' he would lay me out.
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03/24/2005 2:04 pm
Originally Posted by: chucklivesoninmyheart
People who pick fights(besides being insecure punks)are weak and look for victims...they don't look for challenges unless they'er filled with some 'liquid courage'(beer/stupidity).



Or people who just like to fight and so they purposely blow the small things up to fight the person wether the win or loose ....they just want to fight :D
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03/24/2005 4:13 pm
Originally Posted by: chucklivesoninmyheart...He is trained to score points,not survive a full contact encounter with no points,saftey,help or doctors standing by...

And how are those points scored? By spitting into someone's face? :D
We know that's not the answer.
Did you watch the last olympics?
There was a game I saw, Tae Kwon Do. Helmets and all. Doctors by the truck load. And yes, they were playing for points.
Dude here acts like he's pushed to the edge of the circle, his opponent moves in for the kill (I think if you step out of the circle you are out, or lose a lot of points). Suddenly, dude jumps, spins, and delivers this mutha***** of a kick to would-be killer's head, would-be killer's helmet flys off his head. He is out cold. Game over.
That may have been done for points, but my bet is that if it happened to you in a "real" combat situation, your response would not be any different from would-be killer's.
And by the, a "normal" kick to the body earns a point. A kick to the head, on the other hand, earns 3. These "for points" dudes can kick ass outside the ring just as much as inside. In fact, they probably kick less in the ring coz they have to follow rules, but in a " real" combat situation, kicking, for example, below the belt, is perfectly legal. Ouch!! :eek:
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03/24/2005 5:59 pm
Originally Posted by: kingdavidAnd how are those points scored? By spitting into someone's face? :D
We know that's not the answer.
Did you watch the last olympics?
There was a game I saw, Tae Kwon Do. Helmets and all. Doctors by the truck load. And yes, they were playing for points.
Dude here acts like he's pushed to the edge of the circle, his opponent moves in for the kill (I think if you step out of the circle you are out, or lose a lot of points). Suddenly, dude jumps, spins, and delivers this mutha***** of a kick to would-be killer's head, would-be killer's helmet flys off his head. He is out cold. Game over.
That may have been done for points, but my bet is that if it happened to you in a "real" combat situation, your response would not be any different from would-be killer's.
And by the, a "normal" kick to the body earns a point. A kick to the head, on the other hand, earns 3. These "for points" dudes can kick ass outside the ring just as much as inside. In fact, they probably kick less in the ring coz they have to follow rules, but in a " real" combat situation, kicking, for example, below the belt, is perfectly legal. Ouch!! :eek:

There's a lot of different scoring systems, though and with them come different levels of contact that are allowed.

From what you described there, it was full contact, but they were keeping score in case nobody was knocked out. Under different rules, it can be purely by point with nothing harder than a tap allowed.
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03/24/2005 7:08 pm
Originally Posted by: kingdavidbut my bet is that if it happened to you in a "real" combat situation


And what are the odds of that guy pulling that same move off in an random encounter on the street.You can practice 'the flaming dragon kick' for 20 years in a dojo/gym but when you are attacked outside where the positioning,weather,surfaces,innocent standbys,crowded rooms/halls and infinite variables exist,the chances of you pulling it off are slim.

Not to mention,fine motor skills go out the window...that fancy sidekick in the gym looks like crap and when your opponent isn't fighting the way you trained for you'll get injured or worse.

3rd_degree...knees are devastating...especially on people who drop there hands.
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03/24/2005 9:16 pm
Good post ponyone.

Ive ended fights by...

*Diffusing fights(the BEST way to walk away untouched,obviously and the first thing you should try to do.Speech and de-escalating can work in some situations like where there is 3 or more people and the odds are stacked.Should always be the first effort you make)

*Top mount and right punch

*Standard front headlock/choke and strikes to the kidneys(after an attempted takedown)

*Right hook,left hook(two seperate occasions)

and thats it...nothing special.In sparring,stong front kicks always beat a roundhouse in my experience.The time it takes for a strong roundhouse to arrive is longer than a straight front kick/push kick to the gut.
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03/24/2005 10:15 pm
I almost always used to spar lefty even though I'm right handed and legged. Part of it was that I could get my right leg up faster and hit harder with it off the front than I could with my left, partially because it put people off.

The other thing was, I could land a NASTY inverted round which people who weren't used to me NEVER expected.

One time at a tournament as I was setting it up for a break, my instructor caught some of judges whispering amongst themselves "he'll never break it with that." He chuckled at them then said something like "you wanna bet?" to them.

I made the break on my first try.
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03/24/2005 11:26 pm
All u need these days is a handgun and yer protected fer life

"hey man give me yer money"

BAM
and then run away so his homies dont get u
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03/25/2005 8:41 am
Originally Posted by: XChris557All u need these days is a handgun and yer protected fer life

"hey man give me yer money"

BAM
and then run away so his homies dont get u


You've obviously never used a handgun. Handguns are usually only useful for self defense if there's a healthy distance between you and your target, which requires you to see the confrontation coming well in advance.
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03/25/2005 8:55 am
And the moral of the story is...

http://www.limestonemedia.com/funny-video/video/cops_and_guns1.mov

very,very funny.Even funnier that this guy is DEA...

anyway,yeah,if you have a gun and feel that your all set,then your dead wrong.You can't shoot someone for taking a swing at you(unless you want jail time to buff up and 'stretch out').Unless its a deadly situation(multiple attackers and no escape or someone else with a weapon and again,no escape or help nearby)you will be looking at some time...

"officer,they attacked me"...Officer replies "ok,calm down...did you try to get away?"....see ya!
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03/25/2005 2:54 pm
I agree with him, there isnt really a best guitarist for overall.
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03/25/2005 8:55 pm
Originally Posted by: chucklivesoninmyheartAnd the moral of the story is...

http://www.limestonemedia.com/funny-video/video/cops_and_guns1.mov

very,very funny.Even funnier that this guy is DEA...

anyway,yeah,if you have a gun and feel that your all set,then your dead wrong.You can't shoot someone for taking a swing at you(unless you want jail time to buff up and 'stretch out').Unless its a deadly situation(multiple attackers and no escape or someone else with a weapon and again,no escape or help nearby)you will be looking at some time...

"officer,they attacked me"...Officer replies "ok,calm down...did you try to get away?"....see ya!

was that movie supposed to have sound? I couldn't hear anything, but it looked hella funny!!!!!
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03/25/2005 9:38 pm
Yeah,its supposed to have sound...he say's roughly this.

"Not more than a week ago a kid,not even 16,was killed playing with a gun"

"This is an unloaded gun.This is a glock 40,I'm the only in the room special enough to *bang!*"

yep...he is special indeed.
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