Leedog: that's pretty intresting actually... ive not really thought of it that way... It's just they really are apples and oranges to compare... but in terms of impact, I think you could be right...

I dont really know too much about korn.. so i've decided to start going through the discography (that's been on my pc for about 6months)..

I totally disagree with you... their guitar tone is great, it does also avoid really tasteless meandering solos... the early stuff reminds me primus (blind, i'll be damned if the intro to that isnt lifted straight off "too many puppies").. the drummer can certainly play...

I'm not a fan of the lyrics, but then again in comparison to gun n roses its not hurrendous...
Im pretty anti-technique my self.. It's nice to do something once in a while if it feels like it fits, but playing like your manhood's been called into question is just ridiculous... and ive said it before, Look at the song writing of the Satrianis and Vais (in particular "brother" by steve vai) and compare that to poeple who "cant play" like cat power, smog, baptist generals...
Theres a reason why these virtiousos use women and cars in their videos, covers etc, there's f ck all substance or though, it's all sequencing notes, nothing beyond that, and if you have to think about anything beyond the rythem and melody you have to pad for the dear life of you. Snatch at f cking cliches with both hands...

primus for me are the only happy story of somepoeple who can really play who have intresting songs... I swear to god Satch would write some of the worlds best selling ringtones, but he writes some of the most cringe worthy, banal, made obvious guitar solos for even the slowest witted of us to get, cack that i've heard...
it's the same with dream theater (except that mike portny is a bit of a daddy), I saw them live with a freind of mine who's a huge fan, which is surprising considering he's got an above average iq... I just had no what the appeal was... untill it dawned on me... It's all about making something hurrendously obvious and quantifiable so people will think your the best in what's really a f cking subjective field.. really alot of these guitarist play against the clock like they're running the hundered meters, and that in those ten seconds everyone will agree whos the best... it's like beingable to type at 90+ words a minute, it doesnt mean youll write a complex or compelling story, it just that you'll fill it with stuff in the time you get, and if your pretty characterless and one dimensional in your thinking, its gonna be the lowest grade diahorea with sports car, mtv gals, sun glasses, and bad attitude...
ydlkfjsdlkfjsflk malmsteen is the prime example of someone relying on the same tired arpegios, and having idiots hoot and holler along cos he can play it faster than they can.

I get so pissed off about this... is the guitar population into monster trucks, cheer leaders, getting drunk, and shooting the sh t about whos a "hot" guitar player?... theres more than your contracually obliged heroes pouring out parodies of instrumental rock.