Guitar Lessons:
Guitar Tricks
Username:     Password:
Guitar Lessons (855) EZ-GUITAR




Go Back   Guitar Tricks Forum > Open Community ( Visitors Welcome ) > Guitar Basics
User Name
Password


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-21-2012, 11:49 AM
omaof3 omaof3 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 14
omaof3 has made some friends around here
tuning

When I tune my guitar (with an electronic tuner, some times check with the organ) and it is in tune - then when I play it doesn't sound quite right. Checking with the tuner; for instance, the C on the B string, the note is sharp, while the B is in tune. Anybody know what causes this?

I also find my guitar easier to play with the capo on - the strings are closer to the fretboard then - do the better quality guitars have the strings situated closer to the fretboard? Is that why they are said to be easier to play?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-21-2012, 12:54 PM
hunter1801 hunter1801 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lake Forest, CA
Posts: 1,313
hunter1801 has gotten by on pure wit
Could be that your intonation is off. Check the open string, to the 12th fret. They should be the exact same pitch. If it is sharp/flat then it is a problem with intonation. You would have to adjust the saddle and move it back if the string is sharp, forward if it's flat.

Better quality guitars are of course going to be set up better. Not sure what kind of guitar you have so can't comment on it being "cheap" or not.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-21-2012, 04:26 PM
omaof3 omaof3 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 14
omaof3 has made some friends around here
Thanks, I'll check that.
My guitar is an acoustic Hawthorne by Walden. I paid $200 for it and thought that was plenty for a beginner guitar not being sure I would like it. But then I was looking around on the 'net and found guitars in the $2000 and more range! Other than the body being made of solid wood I wonder what all the differences are. I wouldn't mind playing one of those just to feel the difference ;-)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-21-2012, 04:57 PM
Ben Lindholm's Avatar
Ben Lindholm Ben Lindholm is offline
Guitar Tricks Instructor
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 911
Ben Lindholm eventually gets it mostly right
The solid wood makes a difference, but mainly for the top of the guitar. I have played many VERY good guitars with just a solid top, and laminate sides and back.

More expensive instruments are usually set up really well, and intonated perfectly for a certain string gauge (most often .12s). You will also hear that the tone is more balanced, and a lot of the extra noise you get from cheap guitars is gone.

If the guitar has a pickup system, more expensive guitars usually have a better one.

You don't need to go as high as $2000 though to find a close to perfect acoustic guitar. There are many very good guitars for around $1000 that are good enough for professionals.

A lot of the extra $$$ you pay above $1000-1500 can be for purely cosmetic improvements like inlays and the most beautiful pieces of wood.

I have played guitars that cost $5000 that didn't feel good at all.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-21-2012, 05:56 PM
hunter1801 hunter1801 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lake Forest, CA
Posts: 1,313
hunter1801 has gotten by on pure wit
Well if it's an acoustic, it's more complicated if it's an intonation issue. You are kind of stuck to a certain extent. On electrics, you can adjust the saddle back and forth easily. Acoustics don't have the same set-up so you don't have a saddle that you can move to adjust each string.

I would take it in to a shop and ask them to have a look at it.

$200 is fine for a beginner guitar. I wouldn't even really consider it a "cheap" beginner guitar. Paying like $50-100 would be cheap and would almost guarantee that there are going to be huge differences in playing.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-22-2012, 02:33 AM
firewalkerb4 firewalkerb4 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 12
firewalkerb4 has made some friends around here
I had posted on here earlier; I was having somewhat of the same issue. I took my guitar to a music store where they lowered the bridge and replaced the strings with Martin strings. My guitar was just under 200.00. The cost was under 20.00 and made a world of different in the performance of the guitar. The F major was killing me, trying to get it for a week. After the above adjustments were done; making it a lot easier. I still canít just roll with F Major, but can play with some concentration.
I also had a problem with the tuning, using a Shark Electric Tuner. The tuner would show that the strings were on the money, but when I strummed them you could tell that they were not right. Thatís when I got to thinking, a guitar has 7 Major notes right A,B,C,D,E,F,& G, how many times can I produce a E on string 1. Well I found out that you can tune the 1st string to play 3 different levels of E, the same applies to the other 5 strings and their respective note. This is what happened with me, Iím a beginner so Iím struggling with learning, but having fun. My wife has showed me some new faces I had not seen before, you would think after 28 years of marriage proceeded by 2 years of dating I would have seen them all by now. ďWrongĒ Just kidding. I hope this helps,
Mike
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-22-2012, 05:25 AM
Razbo Razbo is offline
Full Access
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: NS Canada
Posts: 1,562
Razbo has gained some favorable attention
From your description, I think you need to have a set up. Regardless of technique or string type, if your geet is set up too high, it stretches the string more than it should to fret it, making the note go sharp. Nut slots: That's your problem. Get them reslotted by someone with the right tools.
__________________
...so ever since then, I always hang on to the buckle.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:26 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin® Version 3.0.17
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Guitar Lessons Learn Guitar
© Copyright 1998-2014 GuitarTricks. All rights reserved.


Learn Guitar Online