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03-07-2002, 03:08 PM
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I've had this argument so many times with so many people that i couldnt resist it on here too......but i'm looking at the same **** i always see. People's opinions will always be divided. I dont think its worth me putting a huge self-analysis of my own opinion on here coz everything i think about Speed Vs Feeling coz its pretty much been said in everyone elses posts, so lets sum it up: You can have feeling without speed but you should never have speed without feeling.....and yes thats possible: try Yngwie Malmsteen who in my opinion only plays fast to show off and not to communicate anything. As far as speed with feeling is concerned, Jimmy Page is God  (with Randy Rhaods a close second.)
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03-07-2002, 04:42 PM
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heh.
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03-07-2002, 04:52 PM
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first-
why do you add to the speed vs. feeling argument if you dont like it?
2nd - i agree with you, anybody that plays without feelings is a ****er.
3rd -are you new here?
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03-07-2002, 05:50 PM
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try Yngwie Malmsteen who in my opinion only plays fast to show off and not to communicate anything
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Why do you say that? Just because he doesn't do bends? I don't necessarily say this to defend Yngwie (even though I sort of like his stuff) but to make a point that you seem to be another example of someone who judges the abstract, intangible concept of "feeling" based on, 1) a mindset geared around rock music, and 2) how closely a solo represents a cliched, bluesy bend type thing. I don't have anything against bends, but some people seem to judge "feeling" using people like B.B. King as a benchmark and ignore the fact that long before guitar came into fruition, beautifully emotional music was being created that often involved a lot of speed (some of the most emotional classical and flamenco music is blaringly fast).
Also, I put quotes around the word feeling because we're trying to describe the emotion attached to a sound, and that's something that's totally personal. I don't know about you but I think Yngwie is very good at creating anger and suspense in his angst-driven neo-classical genre. Aren't those feelings? Now given, I don't know if I've ever heard him play anything happy or upbeat... which might say something about the range of emotion is able to convey.
btw, there is already a BIG thread about this going... why don't you check over that one?
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03-07-2002, 11:42 PM
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Man, speed, is like, my feeling of the trip that leaves me sightless. We all just got to breathe a little in between sets, but when we want to rush, man, we just got to. Though no one can say exactly what I want to say the way I would want it to be said, though, can I be sure of whether what I want to be said is right?
In this modern world where (when?) we all drive our fast cars, and live our fast lives, do we not feel anything anymore? No, we do feel things, but they're different. I try to accentuate the knowledge of this in a short time, 'cause none of has anything other than short time anymore. The days of speed are gone, because what we used to call speed is now just a dreaming state of when we were younger.
This whole debate is fairly abstract anyway. We all inherently know that when we play our instruments we care about what we play.
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03-08-2002, 12:54 AM
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The days of speed are gone, because what we used to call speed is now just a dreaming state of when we were younger.
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Tell that to my Saab... 16 years old and can still beat Bimmers...
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Originally posted by Bardsley This whole debate is fairly abstract anyway. We all inherently know that when we play our instruments we care about what we play. [/B]
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Agreed.
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03-08-2002, 09:03 AM
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yeah, EVERY pro musician plays with Feeling! otherwise they wouldnt be pros!
Yngwie (Sp?) definitely plays with feeling. just becuase he's not black and doesnt do 2 step bends, doesnt mean he doenst play with feeling. even speed demons play with feeling.
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