Well i was sitting here and reading all the smarth stuff you guys said about scales and modes but one thing i cant understand...
if the modes is the scale, starting with different note, how could it be that when we play for example the c myxolidian we still start playing with c? another thing i can't get is why the same myxolidian mode can't be called G major/ ionian????

Here's another one. Now I think I have finally gotten modes, but I just need some clarification on a few things. If you play the mode starting on the third note of the C major scale, you are playing the E phrygian mode, correct? or are you playing C phrygian? See I think I get it, except for the naming.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Times, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by James:
Here's another one. Now I think I have finally gotten modes, but I just need some clarification on a few things. If you play the mode starting on the third note of the C major scale, you are playing the E phrygian mode, correct? or are you playing C phrygian? See I think I get it, except for the naming. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeah, you're right. that would be the E Phrygian mode not C. C Ionian = E Phrygian in a way. The notes are the same but their relations are not in other words their content is the same but the form is different. Think of it this way, modes are moods. The Lydian represents a different mood than the Ionian despite their similarity.

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in other words you can say that any scale is just a mode of other one?
like Am is just a mode of C (i cant remmember it's name anyway)
so what is the difference between keys??
why do i say this song is played in C key
and not in Am or do i say the opposite?
how do i know??? and i repeat the question i asked before if one of the modes of C is Am
then why when i'm playing i'm playing it as different scales... i mean once i play as the root note (i mean the 1 one) is a
and another time is c... i mean it's the same notes, just different names and positions so what the sense??

Ouh yes.. i forgot something...
Am chord is must be another chord too, which is probably some strage C chord, right?
so basicly any guitar chord has at least 2 names right??
does it helps us anyway? or do i get wrong?

Ok I'm going to give a shot at answering one of your questions. If I'm wrong, I hope someone will correct me. The reason why you say a song is in the key of C and not Am is because typically a song's chord progression will start with the first note of the scale, so a song in the key of C may go C-D-G, whereas a song in the key of Am would go A-C-B. Now if you were to do a solo over either of these, you could use either the A Minor scale or the C Ionian scale, because the notes are the same. did that help at all? Moreover, was I right? I'm still a beginner at this theory stuff too

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