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Old 09-18-2011, 12:51 PM
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Transposing and open tunings

Is there a good Web resource for transposing keys and perhaps not only transposing a key, but giving alternatives with open tunings? I'm wrestling with the song Beseme Mucho right now and some of the fingering gymnastics required are proving a real challenge. Here's the suggested chords:

Am Dm7
Bésame, bésame mucho,
Bm7b5 A7 Dm7 F° Am
Como si fuera esta noche la última vez.
A7 Dm7
Bésame, bésame mucho,
Am F E7 Am
Que tengo miedo a perderte, perderte después.

OK, I don't know what an "F°" notation is. Also, going from a Bm7b5 to an A7 is hanging me up.

Suggestions please?
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Old 09-19-2011, 03:55 PM
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Is there a good Web resource for transposing keys and perhaps not only transposing a key, but giving alternatives with open tunings?

A Google search for key transposer turns up lots of sites.

But you are trying a song with lots of extended chord tones. Any jazz(ish) standard is going to have a lot of voices moving. Most open tunings are aimed at making one particular harmonic structure "the standard". So typically, you get an easy way to play only major chords, or only minor chords, or only suspended chords, or only altered dominant chords, etc.

But not necessarily easy ways to change between each kind of chord.

A better option might be to figure out which chord tones & notes you need for any given chord in a progression, then find an easy place to play it in standard tuning.
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I'm wrestling with the song Beseme Mucho right now ...

Nice tune!
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OK, I don't know what an "F°" notation is.

The superscript circle is the symbol for a diminished chord. In this tune, I'd suggest a diminished 7th chord. Example:

Code:
E |--4----------------| B |--3----------------| G |--4----------------| D |--3----------------| A |-------------------| E |-------------------|

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Also, going from a Bm7b5 to an A7 is hanging me up.

Bmin7flat5 contains the notes: b, d, f, a.
A7 contains the notes: a, c#, e, g.

Look for places for those notes to move closely from one to another. Example:
Code:
E |---------------------| B |--3--2---------------| G |--2--0---------------| D |--3--2---------------| A |--2--0---------------| E |---------------------|


I've got lots of tutorials that show the basic patterns of those extended harmony chords (minor 7, minor 7 flat 5, dim 7, etc.). If you already know the most basic ones in this list, please skip ahead to the jazz based ones. If not, then you will benefit from going through them in order!

Introduction To Dominant 7th Chords
http://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=479

Introduction To Movable Dominant 7th Chords
http://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=499

Practicing Moveable Dominant 7th Chords
http://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=500

Introduction To Major & Minor 7ths Chords
http://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=501

Practicing Major & Minor 7th Chords
http://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=513

(Skip down to here.) This one will be the most valuable in learning Besame Mucho.
Extended Harmony Chords Series 1 (more 7th chords in jazz context)
http://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=1166

Extended Harmony Chords Series 2 (9th chords in jazz context)
http://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=1185

Extended Harmony Chords Series 3 (11th & 13th chords in jazz context)
http://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=1195

Hope this helps. Please ask more if necessary! Have fun.
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Old 09-23-2011, 02:07 PM
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Muchas Gracias Senor CSchlegel

Wow, that is a very complete and in-depth response and I appreciate it more than I can say! You broke it down for me in a way that I can understand. I think Guitar Tricks is worth every penny and more just to be able to tap the musical knowledge of people like you. Thank you very much!
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Wow, that is a very complete and in-depth response and I appreciate it more than I can say! You broke it down for me in a way that I can understand. I think Guitar Tricks is worth every penny and more just to be able to tap the musical knowledge of people like you. Thank you very much!

You are certainly welcome. Have fun learning & playing that beautiful tune.
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