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Jimmi431 09-01-2004 04:38 PM

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"joe scalene:
I really want to play like srv . its not important to have the effects he uses but the skilld he achieve. is anyone who have some exercises or srv pls do send me some tabs i want to have strong fings.. thanks"

if ya wanna get as strong fingers as srv then the only way to do that is to play with heavier string gauges. ignore those nasty little things you can buy from music shops that "strengthan" your fingers (kinda a like little hand grips that you can push down with individual fingers). theres no point as you could be practicin play a heavier gauge insead

spanky10940 09-01-2004 04:50 PM

to have his or anyones skill level is all in what they put into it.

Stevie was playing all the time. There are stories of him getting off the stage, getting on the tour bus and jammin some more. The moral of the story?

Practice, practice, practice... when you're done? nope - you're not done... go back to your room and practice!!!!

You'll feel it when things are becoming 'yours' so to speak. You'll have a sound or things that you can do without thinking about it. That's how he did everything, with an ease and a grace that was easy as talking for you and I. The only way to get that way is ___________ (yep the P word) :D

Lordathestrings 09-01-2004 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmi431
if ya wanna get as strong fingers as srv then the only way to do that is to play with heavier string gauges. ignore those nasty little things you can buy from music shops that "strengthan" your fingers (kinda a like little hand grips that you can push down with individual fingers). theres no point as you could be practicin play a heavier gauge insead
I have to disagree with that. I sprained my left hand badly last year, and "those nasty little things" were the key to my rehab.

I was pulling an old window shut with my left hand. It stopped dead, before I was expecting it to. That basically ruined everything between my fingertips and my elbow. :eek:

I had to build up my strength from Zero, and I haven't got all the way back yet. But if I had tried to jump back in where I left off, I wouldn't be playing at all, now.

If you jump into playing with heavy strings before you have enough hand strength to play them properly, you will trash your technique, and possibly your hands.

By all means, get one of "those nasty little things" and spend every spare minute playing with it. Get a light one. The key is repetition, not brute strength. The strength comes on it's own. And squeeze it with your fret hand positioned as if your were holding your guitar. It's important to exercise the right muscles in the right positions.

Good luck!

Jimmi431 09-02-2004 11:59 AM

hahha you really didn't like the comment about the "nast little things"did ya?? each to his own i guess, just when i moved to playing heavier gauge strings i found that just playin on it was practice enough, an i felt i would be wastin my money on somethin like that as i'd seen mates playin with them an they didn't seem to help them in any way. however each to his/her own i guess. wow that must have been very very annoyin not bein able to play. thats another thing i noticed when they were usin them "nasty little things" ( yup tis their new name!) they were just squashin it flat in what ever way they could so i saw it as pointless as they weren't exercisin the right muscles in any way. so if you do get one make sure you use it right otherwise my point will be proven an it'll be a waste of time but if ya use it right an prove me wrong then woohoo. but i'd personally go for just increasing string gauge everso often, but don't just jump from really light to dead heavy as it will really piss you off when tryin to play.

Lordathestrings 09-02-2004 02:05 PM

The reason they have individual buttons for each finger is to allow you to exercise each finger separately. I challenge anyone who has not tried it before to compress the spring under their pinky without moving the other fingers! It's also very important to do these exercises while your fret hand is held palm up, with the elbow bent, just as you would position your arm while playing. The musles are used differently, depending on how your arm is positioned, so you get it all wrong unless your arm is in the same place it would be if you were actually playing.

joe scalene 09-02-2004 07:33 PM

I practise very often. and ther was a time that I pushed myself 2 hard that my left finger were paralized. I can barely move them. so painfull. :(

what do you mean by those little nasty things. The one with springs?

Lordathestrings 09-02-2004 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by joe scalene
I practise very often. and there was a time that I pushed myself 2 hard that my left fingers were paralized. I can barely move them. so painfull. :(
Oh, yes, there can be too much of a good thing! :eek:

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Originally Posted by joe scalene
what do you mean by those little nasty things. The one with springs?
The ones I use are sold under the name of Gripmaster. They consist of two bars joined by springs, and a row of spring-loaded buttons. They have a rubber cap one one bar to allow it to fit comfortably against the base of your thumb and the palm of your fretting hand. There are three springs between this part and the middle bar. Above the middle bar are four buttons, each with it's own spring. One for each finger. You work out by pinching th device between your thumb and fingers.

I usually remove the rubber cap and push against the bar with the ball of my thumb, just as I push against the back of the guitar neck. When you first start, it's amazing how much strength it takes to compress the spring with your pinky finger! I recommend starting with the lightest one, even if you're not recovering from an injury. These gizmos are helpful in developing your ability to move your fingers strongly and independantly. As with any skill, it's very important to get it right before moving on to the next (harder) step.

There is no substitute for practice on an actual guitar, but working with these 'nasty lil thangs' can do a lot to help you develop the finger strength and co-ordination that you need for good technique.


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