i just got my first guitar it's a ESP M-10 i want to know how long well it take to learn to play slipknot songs on my guitar.

Dude!!!
Slipknot is easy!
I'll tell you how to play a song(forget the name)from there new album on this post!

1.Put your guitar down(you might damage or mis-use it)
2.Stand at the top of your stairs and kick your mother(father,brother,sister,friend)down them for buying you slipknots "music".If YOU purchased it then throw yourself down the stairs.
3.If it was downloaded,you must destroy the hard drive of the computer as it most likley has infected it with a worm("maggot" if you will).
4.Buy a cheap guitar or borrow one from a friend(assuming they enjoy slipknot as well.)
5.Ok,this is where we play the actual song...Carfully stand at the top of the same flight of stairs you threw another person or yourself down.Plug into a 10-15 Watt Crate combo with everything set at ten(on the amp).The guitar cable must be at least the length of you steps.Make sure your bridge pickup is selcted and tone and volume knobs maxed.
Now,Fling that guitar down those steps.It will make plenty of grainy noise and the notes that are sounded wont reach beyond the 5th fret.You have just played EVERY slipknot song.
6.pick up your M-10(great guitar for the price)and learn your basic chords,scales and some songs to start of with that will challenge you and improve you playing...
Purple Haze(Jimi hendrix)
Fade To Black(mettalica)
Stairway(no pun)To Heaven(Led Zepplin)
Crazy Train(Ozzy)

You are now on the road to being a very talented guitarist...repeat all the above if needed.

also check out bands from record labels such as...

Relapse,earache,metalblade,century media and empire records.

have fun!

Later! \m/

Yea slipknot songs are pretty easy....mostly just down tune your guitar to B-F-B on the last three strings and play slightly muted power chords on the 1st and 2nd frets...LOL:D

That was hilarious! You're right man!
Learn Metallica and Zeppelin.

Now now, lets not encourage self-injuring...be careful people! Knowing the average Slipknot fan they will probably try whatever you suggest and take a pic of their tortured self for your pleasure....

ROFLMAO!!!

That's hilarious. Sh*tknot does suck, but let him have his own opinion.

How long will it take you to learn the song depends on how you practice? If you practice just that song and you've never played guitar, maybe a week or two, maybe a month, maybe a year. Depends on how fast you learn and what you are really practicing. Try learning a variety of songs not just ones by certain bands, it will improve your overall playing.

there songs are really easy but the practice routine mick showed in the guitar magazine is a killer..u guys say they suck..hey obviously they dont to some other wise they wouldnt be selling albums..y do u people have to bash bands so harshly..i mean comeone, ive bashed tihngs but not liek sayin "sh!tnot" its like ur jealous cuz therer were they are and ur not
most songs wont take long but the vast majority of their tabs are wrong..learn them by ear

Ive heard that Mick is talented.To bad he isnt in a band that allows its members to put 110% into there music.
They got where they are by making compromises with there music and worst of all,themselves.Ive never thought of it in this vain,but integrity realy counts musically(for me at least).

I dont bash bands because there popular or because the underground hates them(Pantera).I bash them because they conform there sound,lyrics,image e.c.t to reach untouched "revenue"(people)and markets.People are weak.Thats the way the human brain works.Monkey see,monkey do,follow me,be cool too.Like it or not,its built in and strong.All great leaders(Hitler is a shining example of a true leader...he was evil...but he was one influential leader)and industries know that people fall like domino's as long as they havnt been exposed to the upper alternate.
When you fall in love with that alternate and look back,you see the truth...then you look forward and can see nothing,but you can move ahead with the knowlege youve gained.

that my philosophy for the day...

later! \m/

I dotn care for Slipknot, but I have the Murderdolls album, a side project of Slipknots drummer Joey Jordison(?) where he plays guitar. Its really good, punky pop metal type stuff in the vein of early Crue, I love the album. Anyone else got it?

I like Slipknot, and Mick is a bad ass ;), he could probley smoke most of the people on these boards.

i have the murderdoll cd..i like some of the solos like dead in hollywood..ive tried some of micks stuff and he is awesome..him and zakk are friends that shred together during ozzfest..dimbag too

I have the Murderdolls album, its really neat, stuff, i especially like 197666!

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!
Wrong answer

EEEEPPP??? what do u mean..u guys dont like their music some do..they sell albums because some ppl like their music

Have you ever heard a Slipknot fan comment on the music?Ive never heard from the mouth of a slipknot fan "man thats a sick riff"...Ive heard "There awsome","they rule","they own","corys hot" e.c.t,but nothing to do with there music.

Can you say baaa baaa sheep?

The Intro Riff to Spit it out is pretty awsome. :)
The Drums in Purity are crazy.
How Prosthetics builds up ends makes it a great song.


There a Fan, and guitarest that commented on there playing, which might be super technical(Although Mick and Jim have both been known to be very good guitarests) but they can make it sound good.

about not sucking cus ppl buy albums ...
 

mmm britney spears and the lot sell more records cus theyre easy to listen to
painful if u have my ears.

yes everyone is entitled to an oppion but sales doesnt make a good band.

they sell cus theres a market and taht no good for music
check out jazz failed in the market but great music

I don't know if these points have come up in this thread - I don't have time to check right now, if so, I appologize for being redundant.

Now, onto the post:

1). Since the Backstreet Boys sell more records than Slipknot, they must be better, right?

2). Yes, both of Slipknot's guitarists are talented enough musicians (they've both been in Melodic DM bands). Because of that, it strikes me as somehow worse that they play music as overtly dumb as Slipknot's.

worst part about slipknot(besides the music)is that they openly addmited to doing it for the money.You know when you see a slipknot fan...an angst attitude and foul mouth that seems grossly fake.They defend slipknot as the best band ever,have all the posters,shirts,buttons,coffee mugs,rag dolls,pens,traper keepers,tampons e.c.t and disregard all other music.
There very much like teeny boppers...actually alot of them are!There hardcore at 10+ years old!

Where the flock goes no one knows!

Every Rock star dose it for the Fans ;) lol, the millions of dollars that come with it, ya, thats nothing,....for the fans!

Nah, Slipknot write their own music, and it sells millions of records, therefore they obviously have talent.

Whoever writes the Backstreet Boys songs, I believe one of the members writes them plus probably proffessional songwriters, is obviously talented too if they can write catchy songs people like and buy.

It doesn't take talent to follow a long established formula, make slight alterations and churn out cheap records that thousands and thousands of people will gobble up. Business sense, a little foresight, yes, but neither business sense nor foresight really count as "musical talent" in my book.

Marketing((Group of attractive, well manicured young men + dance routines) + ("poppy" music - anything original + pocket beats)) = A lot of teen girls and top 40 radio time

Marketing(foul language+moderately heavy music+gimmick-originality) = Angsty teen boys and angry men with no necks who want to mosh

So True.

Marketing is not good for the music industry. Since marketing is based on the fact that you are making products to fit into what people want. Well, it was ok with one band, but now no one has broken the mold. They keep marketing the same type of nu-metal crap.

I believe that Slipknot has talented musicians, heck, I like Stone Sour. Corey Taylor is an awesome singer, and Mick can shred. But when you try to sound like crap, as Rask said, it's insulting.

Talent is in the eye of the beholder...

that said, I hate Slipknot, and almost as much as I hate them, I enjoy laughing at/making fun of their diehard fans... I've heard some of the guitarist's solo album and it is pretty good, not ground breaking, but good... which makes me wonder why it is that he/they sound so uninspired and whatever in their most successful pursuit.

Slipknot sells records because their music is simple, loud and fast; their fans, most of whom seem to be middle to upper class 12-16 year old males who are overweight or underweight, have a list of self-diagnosed mental and emotional issues that go out the door and down the block, like to act like they hate everything but really think life is kinda cool, and can't get dates, seem to enjoy popping in CD's and just going "check it out: DUHNUNUNUNUNUNUNUNUUUUUUUUH!!!!!" and headbanging along to the music, while their friends go "that's fukking awesome" and they talk about how they all know karate, know all about guns, have scored 55 times when in fact they've never kissed a girl before, etc.

It's beginner metal. It's like you know how they say marijuana is the starter drug? Slipknot and bands like them are starter metal bands. They aren't really all that metally, they aren't really all that amazingly talented, but they do the job, kinda, and make it so you can later appreciate bands like Refused. The four, skinny, knit-sweater-wearing Swedish vegans of Refused would make Slipknot and its fans cry for things to be turned down a little.

But then I like Jamiroquai and Daft Punk... so what do I know...?

Dude this 'Refused' band seems interesting...do you know where i can hear some of their stuff??? i have alot of friends who absolutely love slipknot so i've found that some of there more "melodic" songs such as 'Me Inside' can be kind of entertaining....but tell me more about this 'Refused' i think i am ery open-minded and will listen to anything that seems to be decent music to decide if it really is or not...

check out arch enemy..there guitarist are really really good..sorta like melodic metal somewat.ther from sweden

Refused is a Swedish hardcore-punk-metal band that released CD's from the early 90's; their last CD was recorded in 98 or 99, and released in 99 or 00 (i'm not positive which).

If you want to hear an example of Refused at their angriest, loudest, and most melodic, check out the songs New Noise and Worms of the Senses/Faculties Of The Skull. They will tear your face off.

Other great songs include Sunflower Princess (this song reminds me of a girlfriend of mine who died; first of all, she loved sunflowers, had sunflower jewelry, shirts, etc. When I found out she died in a shooting, I told the friend who told me to shut up, and never listened to anything anyone said about it. I've also never cried over it. in the outro, the lead singer wails "i won't listen, i won't cry, sunflower princess" in a furitive, desperate tone), Burn It, Pretty Face, Protest Song '68, and Liberation Fequency. Damn, anything they do is good.

There's another song called Tannhauser/Derive (sp?) which uses violin, upright bass and viola with electric guitar and hardcore drums, to create a really beautiful, deadly sound. It makes me feel like a murder in winter...

koooooooool

I know a couple of Refused songs, Im not sure how I found out about them but I like them, Ive looked for their albums around and cant seem to find any. I like Tannhauser, its epic but completely listenable, its not pretentious as most 8 minute orchestral/metal pieces tend to be. Ill get a couple of the songs you mentioned PonyOne, I know a couple of swedes so Ill see about getting an album of theirs.

Refused broke up in '98-99, and the demand for their CD's comes and goes, so their label, Burning Heart, which produces a bunch of other Swedish bands, has let the CD production take a back burner to albums by The Hives and such.

Here's a link to where you can buy the CD's: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/s...6387308-1638314

I have two CD's, Everlasting and The Shape Of Punk To Come. Everlasting was recorded in '97, and is more traditional punk hardcore with some death metal thrown into the mix (as witness to Sunflower Princess). It also has some really killer double pedalling. The Shape Of Punk To Come is arguable their best; they had more of a budget to record and so could afford to get a little more experimental with their production as well as their instrumentation. You have moments of extreme artistry with songs like Tannhauser (which they play the first part of on NPR as background sometimes!), and you have moments of pure death hardcore exstacy as like New Noise.