The most underrated guitarist in the world...

[mortalkombatman]

I've been looking at some famous guitar player's biographys and found they all have the same influences, Hendrix, Page, Clapton, SRV, and two of my favorites, Randy Rhoads and Eddie Van Halen.

BUT WHAT ABOUT TED NUGENT?????

I'm about the only person I know that even cares enough about music not to overlook the guy that pioneered "hard rock" and was truly , in my mind, the greatest guitarist the in history of the world!!!

Not only did he write hits, he could kick anyones sorry guitar playing ASS!!!!!!!!!!!

[Slow Diver]

if you say so....:rolleyes:

[sambob]

Ted Nugen'ts cool.

I like it when he dances around in just a little cloth, so I can see his ass occassionally when he jumps extra high. He's a real man, those muscles too.. damn.

But his guitar playing, is lacking.

[Karma In The South]

No, thats Mick Mars Im afraid.

[alucard0941]

Maybe they dont like him cause he had blonde hair??????:confused:

[Raskolnikov]

I'm a bigger fan of The Nuge's personna than his guitar playing.


I give him props for being capable, but when you get right down to it, showmanship counts too.

[iiholly]

Originally posted by mortalkombatman
I've been looking at some famous guitar player's biographys and found they all have the same influences, Hendrix, Page, Clapton, SRV, and two of my favorites, Randy Rhoads and Eddie Van Halen.

BUT WHAT ABOUT TED NUGENT?????

I'm about the only person I know that even cares enough about music not to overlook the guy that pioneered "hard rock" and was truly , in my mind, the greatest guitarist the in history of the world!!!

Not only did he write hits, he could kick anyones sorry guitar playing ASS!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay I have a serious questions to ask you... what exactly is it that you are smoking, because I must avoid ever coming into contact with it. The day that Ted Nugent become the best guitarist ever... you know what bah you suck. Its Ted Nugent he wasn't that great. It was his character mainly that made him famous. "Stoopid" druggies.

[aiwass]

Shawn Lane once got challenged to an onstage guitar duel by Ted Nugent, after Ted had been told what a talent Shawn was. Ted didn't like the idea of any one being better than him, and seeing as Shawn was just in his early teens at the time, he thought he'd show the kid up on stage.

Shawn kicked Ted's ass in every sense, and humiliated him before the entire audience. I would have killed to be there and see it.

Oh, and Shawn was by far the most underrated guitarist.

[sambob]

Shawn did the same thing to Steve Vai as well.

In fact, after seeing tons of footage of him from 1978 (yes, 1978), he was playing things then that nobody could touch. Not Holdsworth, not Al DiMeola, not even Yngwie a couple of years later.

[aiwass]

Are you referring to the NAMM incident? If so, that wasn't just Vai. As far as I know, just about every 80s shredder playing Ibanez (so basically all of 'em) was there, doing a massive onstage jam. Nobody knew who Shawn was, but he blew them all away; in fact, Steve Vai even grabbed the mic, flabbergasted by the total schooling he had just undergone, and said, jokingly: "Get this guy off the stage!"

[sambob]

Well, I bought the bootleg as "Shawn vs. Steve" or some other absurd title. So it always stands out in my mind that way.

[Cryptic Excretions]

I, by all means, don't think of him as a poor guitarist. I do think he's one to be recognized as above a lot of others in skill, but I think the hype about him is accurate. He's not the greatest ever and he's not the worst ever.

[offspringfan101]

Hey now. Ted is a family friend. My moms best friend used to be his girlfriend in the 80's. He rocks, and you all know it, but ur heads are stuck up in the clous, sry, but Ted Nugent rocks! He rips that guitar away man. Thumbs up to yall who like him :cool:

[aiwass]

Hey now. Ted is a family friend. My moms best friend used to be his girlfriend in the 80's. He rocks, and you all know it, but ur heads are stuck up in the clous, sry, but Ted Nugent rocks! He rips that guitar away man. Thumbs up to yall who like him :cool:

The fact that he is a friend of yours doesn't make him a better guitarist.

He challenged Lane to a duel, and got owned. It's that simple.

[ajb]

i know i';ll be flamed for this but tom morello jon frusciante, and maybe tom delonge, hes not that great but i know he can play better stuff than his music genre offers, if he were metal he would be good.

[eltocaor]

Ted Nugent is cool but I don't think he is underrated...I think he is too popular for what he did specialy in US. A guitar player like Tony Mc Alpine who is less known kicks Ted ass...

[Yngtchie Blacksteen]

Shawn was by far the most underrated guitarist.Yup, couldn't agree more.

[Fruitbat]

Two of the most criminally underappreciated players of all time - and now dead - were Danny Gatton and Roy Buchanan. Both were masters of the Tele and pretty much recognised by more famous players as being better than themselves. Eric Clapton pretty well acknowledged Buchanan was a better blues player than himself.

Of rock players still knocking around I'd say the most impressive is Greg Howe, who started off doing Van Halen/Satch stuff but now is more fusion oriented. Check out his debut 'Greg Howe', his Van Halenish 'High Gear' and the fusion 'Introspection' to see what I mean. Boy has he got speed, as fast as Shawn Lane for sure.

Tony McAlpine is also one hell of a player and has toured with Steve Vai. His solo stuff is a bit too neo-classical for my taste but he's done great work with fusion trio CAB which features Dennis Chambers on drums. :cool:

[sambob]

Of rock players still knocking around I'd say the most impressive is Greg Howe, who started off doing Van Halen/Satch stuff but now is more fusion oriented. Check out his debut 'Greg Howe', his Van Halenish 'High Gear' and the fusion 'Introspection' to see what I mean. Boy has he got speed, as fast as Shawn Lane for sure.


1) Greg Howe isn't really as fast as Shawn Lane was.

2) But it doesn't matter, because its TOTALLY different styles. Greg Howe taps everything, while Shawn Lane hardly taps at all.

And I'd say he went through his Van Halen phase very early. He did a couple of albums with his brothers band (High Gear). But all of his solo albums except for the first one of course, have been very much fusion. I couldn't even comprare him to Satriani really.. he's just so much better (but once again totally different styles).

Tony McAlpine is also one hell of a player and has toured with Steve Vai. His solo stuff is a bit too neo-classical for my taste but he's done great work with fusion trio CAB which features Dennis Chambers on drums.


Tony's solo albums may be around 80% neoclassical. BUT, not only has he played with CAB, but he's been playing with Planet X for the past couple of years too!



I don't think these guys are underrated at all (except amongst those pigheaded Vai fans). Anyone thats actually HEARD Greg Howe or Tony Macalpine is very impressed (in my experience at least).

[ketsueki15]

I would say that the most underated guitarist would have to be flamenco and classical guitarist...
1) flemenco is just dam hard
2) classical guitarist try to interpet it as the composer did and alot of the songs are hard...very hard..well thats just my opinion
It takes me awhile to get use to not using my pick

[eltocaor]

I would say that the most underated guitarist would have to be flamenco and classical guitarist...
1) flemenco is just dam hard
2) classical guitarist try to interpet it as the composer did and alot of the songs are hard...very hard..well thats just my opinion
It takes me awhile to get use to not using my pick

Yep I agree with u man...But flamenco today tend to be more appreciated in guitar world especially thanks to famous guitar players like Tomatito and Paco de Lucia... ;)

[I Suffer]

Gary moore.

[alucard0941]

I would say that the most underated guitarist would have to be flamenco and classical guitarist...
1) flemenco is just dam hard
2) classical guitarist try to interpet it as the composer did and alot of the songs are hard...very hard..well thats just my opinion
It takes me awhile to get use to not using my pick

Yea your right. They are REALLY good guitarists but i guess people are more channeled to stuff like Petrucci, Vai, Malmsteen ect. If some people would look how a flamenco guitarist's fingers fly across the fretboard, and the amazing way of rasqueado. ( spanish stumming ) I mean, rasqueado is VERY hard to learn, but once you do . . . . . . . . .. . :eek:

[Death55]

Gary moore.

hehe. Nah :D

[themadaxeman]

Jacke E. Lee...no comment. A brilliant guitar player Bark at the moon, High Wire...wow. :cool:

[Yngtchie Blacksteen]

Gary moore.
Totally agree.

[Fruitbat]

1)
I don't think these guys are underrated at all (except amongst those pigheaded Vai fans). Anyone thats actually HEARD Greg Howe or Tony Macalpine is very impressed (in my experience at least).

They're not underrated by guitar freaks in the know but when do you ever see them nominated in top guitarist polls? Outside the shred community few people have heard of them. You have to remember that virtuoso rock guitar is still widely dismissed in the general music press and by people who aren't big into guitar techniques as 'widdly sh*t'. Just look at the recent Rolling Stone poll.

[Fruitbat]

Yep I agree with u man...But flamenco today tend to be more appreciated in guitar world especially thanks to famous guitar players like Tomatito and Paco de Lucia... ;)

Paco de Lucia is probably the most famous flamenco player of the last 20 years or so and pretty much recognised as one of the best ever. The other most famous living players are Paco Pena and Juan Martin. Tomatito is less well known. Another excellent player is Enrique de Melchor who deserves to be better known.

[alucard0941]

Paco de Lucia is probably the most famous flamenco player of the last 20 years or so and pretty much recognised as one of the best ever. The other most famous living players are Paco Pena and Juan Martin. Tomatito is less well known. Another excellent player is Enrique de Melchor who deserves to be better known.


Ahhh man . . . what about Juan Serrano

[bob poole]

I think he knew how to operate a six shot better than a six string. There were so many of those so called axe heroes in those days. Only a handful were really that good. Only a handful still are. Pity but that my friend is rock and roll.

[Fruitbat]

Last night I was listening to this trance/flamenco fusion number by this outfit called Juno Reactor called 'Pistolero'. It features some excellent flamenco guitar work. I thought it might be someone like Paco Pena but no..Lo and behold it was none other than former Brit twit Billy Idol's guitar toting sidekick..one Steve Stevens.

[metaldeath]

personally i think that i must be a druggie too because (no offense to your taste in music) Ted Nugent blows my dead grandfather!
i think his playing sucks ass!
just my opinion... :)
metaldeath

[Zeppelin]

personally i think that i must be a druggie too because (no offense to your taste in music) Ted Nugent blows my dead grandfather!
i think his playing sucks ass!
just my opinion... :)
metaldeath

lol
i must agree with that

[Tank_Simmons]

I always say Less Claypool is underrated, but who knows.

[aiwass]

I always say Less Claypool is underrated, but who knows.

Les is not underrated, nor is he a guitarist.

[Tank_Simmons]

Aiwass, that joke was apparently lost on you.