now THATS unbelievable!

[Azrael]

http://melos.cau.ac.kr/zboard/data/Paganini_Caprice_no_24.wmv

20 megs, but worth the download!!

as i always said - classical is the way! (practicinig that thing on my dragon right now at original pitch)

THATS what i call serious shred. and that what i call mastery!

[Death55]

Who is playing that ? I dont have time to download it right now !

[Hammurabi]

Some asian person who is very skilled. I'm definitely impressed. And curious as to who that is and where I can watch more of that stuff. :)

[Azrael]

http://melos.cau.ac.kr/zboard/data/Koyunbaba.wmv
http://melos.cau.ac.kr/zboard/data/Sunburst.wmv
http://melos.cau.ac.kr/zboard/data/Prelude_Bach.wmv
http://melos.cau.ac.kr/zboard/data/Choro_Brasil.wmv
http://melos.cau.ac.kr/zboard/data/Estudio_sobre_una_giga_de_Bach.wmv
http://melos.cau.ac.kr/zboard/data/Vals_Venezolane_no_1.wmv
http://melos.cau.ac.kr/zboard/data/Vals_no_4.wmv
http://melos.cau.ac.kr/zboard/data/Serenata_Espanola.wmv
http://melos.cau.ac.kr/zboard/data/Gran_jota.wmv

heres more

her name is Xuefei Yang

www.xuefeiyang.com

[Leedogg]

I couldn't tell if it was a woman, or a little boy. At any rate, I'm impressed. Does classical guitar require the most skill from a guitarist? Is it the most difficult discipline?

[Hammurabi]

Pretty much. Unless I'm just biased from how beautiful it all sounds.

[Hammurabi]

Originally posted by Azrael
http://melos.cau.ac.kr/zboard/data/Koyunbaba.wmv
http://melos.cau.ac.kr/zboard/data/Sunburst.wmv
http://melos.cau.ac.kr/zboard/data/Prelude_Bach.wmv
http://melos.cau.ac.kr/zboard/data/Choro_Brasil.wmv
http://melos.cau.ac.kr/zboard/data/Estudio_sobre_una_giga_de_Bach.wmv
http://melos.cau.ac.kr/zboard/data/Vals_Venezolane_no_1.wmv
http://melos.cau.ac.kr/zboard/data/Vals_no_4.wmv
http://melos.cau.ac.kr/zboard/data/Serenata_Espanola.wmv
http://melos.cau.ac.kr/zboard/data/Gran_jota.wmv

heres more

her name is Xuefei Yang

www.xuefeiyang.com

Those are legal to download, right?

Dahangit, if you look at the samples on her website she puts me to shame even at age 12. Time to start practicing.

[noticingthemistake]

Very kool Az.

[sambob]

Its videos like this that really make me regret giving up classical guitar (at least on a nylon stringed guitar).

[basics]

In my opinion, this is how high the guitar should be played if it's to be played effectively, right? The thing about classical is the preciseness of it all. Not just the preciseness but the entire tune is so accurate to its written version that it may as well be computerized. Not just the technique to master but the note-by-note ... I can't think of the word. No freedom, still beautiful, but very strict. All in all amazing... I've developed one technique prior to seeing that video on my own but have never done fingerpicking. Why the hell am I using a pick.

[finger_cruncher]

Indeed, she's a fine player. But you know what? I can honestly say after watching about six of those videos, that even her arrangements get a bit monotonous after a while. She does amazing finger plucking, but it's not the best classical guitar I've ever heard (although it makes nice background music while browsing websites).

The only thing I really thought was cool (and something I've never seen before) was the artificial harmonics technique executed solely with the fretting hand (although it's actually natural harmonics executed like artificial harmonics with the fretting hand). You can see this in the 'Gran_jota.wmv' clip @ 5:53. Check it out.

[ketsueki15]

Originally posted by finger_cruncher
I can honestly say after watching about six of those videos, that even her arrangements get a bit monotonous after a while. She does amazing finger plucking, but it's not the best classical guitar I've ever heard


SHE IS 12...jesus dude what more can you expect from a 12 year old...i bet she can smoke you, me and any other person on this website when it comes to classical guitar

Some people are just never happy

[finger_cruncher]

Originally posted by ketsueki15
SHE IS 12...jesus dude what more can you expect from a 12 year old...i bet she can smoke you, me and any other person on this website when it comes to classical guitar

Some people are just never happy

Heh. I actually thought she was in her early 20's or something. If she's only 12, then she's pretty damn good. My confusion stems from the fact that she looks very different in her photos than in the video clips. I thought maybe she was just sporting short hair in those clips. I guess her bio probably says her age.

Yes, she could certainly smoke me at classical guitar. I wouldn't dispute that. And I am happy, thank you. :) I just meant she's no Paco DeLucia or anything. No need to get snappy. ;)

[ketsueki15]

my bad..ive been having a bad day...take in consideration that paco de lucia is much older than her

[Hammurabi]

I'm pretty sure she's older than 12, I was just mentioning a video on her website of her playing the guitar when she was twelve.

[TheDirt]

I hate child geniuses... mainly out of envy though. Why couldn't my mom have given me a guitar when I was like 3 or 4? I didn't start playing until 15, but I guess I probably didn't have the discipline or desire to play before that, so I would've abandoned it... I dunno, hard to tell.

[basics]

Originally posted by finger_cruncher
The only thing I really thought was cool (and something I've never seen before) was the artificial harmonics technique executed solely with the fretting hand (although it's actually natural harmonics executed like artificial harmonics with the fretting hand). You can see this in the 'Gran_jota.wmv' clip @ 5:53. Check it out.

You mean where you play a note and an octave higher on the same string you lightly place your index finger and then pick with your thumb behind it? She was doing that for the harmonic but as well playing the octave lower regularily too so 3 octaves I think.

... Learned that from a guy who used a thumb pick to play everything. He was pretty amazing.

[aiwass]

Paco DeLucia and Xufei Yang shouldn't be compared. They are both brilliant at what they do. DeLucia is definitely faster, but he -like most flamenco players- lacks the finesse and GENTLE approach of a classical guitarist - much too aggressive in his attack and phrasing. It's like comparing a hockey player to a figure skater.

Oh, and she's not 12. I believe those videos might be of her at that age, though.

[TheWizard]

no this sounds terrible but you know this girl was bread to play guitar

it's just like the asian gymnists, she was probaly playing guitar by 3 years old and spends 8 hours a day practicing with an armed gaurd standing over her

I doubt she ever decided one day she wanted to play

but she is incredibly skilled, and only at age 12, she will be a legend someday if she begins performing large concernts and composing

[ketsueki15]

thats what i meant...she was 12 during that video...im sure shes much older now
I agree too that Paco Delucia and the chinese girl should not be compared

[aiwass]

Originally posted by TheWizard
but she is incredibly skilled, and only at age 12, she will be a legend someday if she begins performing large concernts and composing

Classical musicians don't compose... Plus, she's not 12 anymore, and I believe she DOES play large concerts. She's quite well-known, even though she's up-and-coming.

[ketsueki15]

Originally posted by aiwass
Classical musicians don't compose..
What exactly do you mean classical musicians dont compose...Obviously bach beethoven, Segovia composed classical music...If not, then what did they do?
Im assuming that because im a musician i cant compose classical music..that whats im getting from your post

[aiwass]

Bach and Beethoven were composers. Classical musicians in general don't compose. I'm sure they write the occasional thingy at home when they're bored, but their job is to create the most accurate rendition of someone else's work. It's also a well-known fact that many of the greatest classical musicians in the world are very poor improvisers - they simply never focused on that aspect of playing.

[TheWizard]

Originally posted by aiwass
Bach and Beethoven were composers. Classical musicians in general don't compose. I'm sure they write the occasional thingy at home when they're bored, but their job is to create the most accurate rendition of someone else's work. It's also a well-known fact that many of the greatest classical musicians in the world are very poor improvisers - they simply never focused on that aspect of playing.

I can see how classical players couldn't impovise

But I would hope there are a number of people out there still writing compositions, or no more classical music is going to be written, and that would be lame

has anyone ever heard of Garrett Dahm?

he's a classicaly trained guitarist who lives in chicago and he's 16, most of the songs on his record are on these videos and I prefer his versions, they're more powerfully executed

[The Ace]

I wish I could hear that stuff...... My computer is sooooo slow I can't hear the songs.....

Yes its true, most classical musicians don't compose. They chose the route of recreating other masters music. Kind of like a young Schubert (for those of you who don't know, Franz Schubert was a classical musician in this sense until he was middle aged, and got inspired by gypsy music and started to compose).

As Yngwie once said, "You've got Bach, Beethoven, Paginini.... those guys were improvising dudes.... they would just sit there and let the ideas flow.... I know a bunch of classical musicians, who if you put a piece in front of them, they can play anything. But when I say ok lets do an AM, F, G jam, they go, 'ok but what notes should I play?' And I go NO!, you know what notes go there, just use them.... but they can't do it."

Most of us, as guitarists, do both. We compose lots of stuff, and learn others stuff too. Some more than others, to each his own.

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by ketsueki15
What exactly do you mean classical musicians dont compose...Obviously bach beethoven, Segovia composed classical music...If not, then what did they do?
Im assuming that because im a musician i cant compose classical music..that whats im getting from your post

There is kind of a line between classical composers and classical musicians, although the composers are obviously musicians too, but in general the people who play the pieces in public dont write them. Segovia never(or very rarely) composed anything of his own... he played pieces by early guitar composers like Tarrega, and even Bach pieces(usually lute suites). Classical musicians tend to be classed as performers or composers, but its not a strict rule you understand. John Williams doesnt write his own music either, he just plays other peoples pieces too fast.

[iamthe_eggman]

wow... for those just tuning in, that was the sound of my jaw dropping...

Amazing piece and performance. The muted section gave me goosebumps!

[Pantallica1]

That is really amazing guitar playing...very impressive.

[chris mood]

Paco de Lucia was also a child prodigy, winning flamenco guitar competitions at age 12, touring the world with a dance troup, and releasing his 1st album by age 15.
As far as Flamenco players not having the same finess as classical guitarists, a lot of that has to do w/the instrument and the technique involved. Flamenco guitars are made with a spruce top for a more Bitier sound. Plus, flamenco players will usually pick closer to the bridge and use a capo, again too achieve this crisp sound. Truth is, classical players are usually in awe of flamenco players right hand technique.
I have not been to the web site yet, going now.....

[chris mood]

Yeah, she's like 21 or 22 now. I read the bio.

[noticingthemistake]

I don't know where anyone got the brain implant that told them that classical musicians today don't compose music. They only play other peoples music. That's one heck of a stereotype, and terribly wrong. Go search midiworld for 20th century composers and artists. And classical musicians were bad improvisers?? You should read up on Beethoven's lifestory. When he got to play for Mozart, he played a well-known piece and Mozart was impressed. Then Beethoven improvised, Mozart immediately left the room to go tell his guest that the "this child will give the world something to talk about". Even later Beethoven would challenge the great virtuosos of europe to improv. contest, where he would run them out of town. No one since has been as good at improvising as Beethoven, and he was a classical musician. Being able to improvise, compose, or whatever you do musically has more to do with the individual and what there goals are, not if your a classical musician. Well you all of a sudden can't improv. or write your own music.

[iamthe_eggman]

Originally posted by noticingthemistake
I don't know where anyone got the brain implant that told them that classical musicians today don't compose music. They only play other peoples music. That's one heck of a stereotype, and terribly wrong. Go search midiworld for 20th century composers and artists.


Yeah, like Yanni or John Tesh!!! You tell 'em, NTM! You tell the world!

[chris mood]

Originally posted by iamthe_eggman
Yeah, like Yanni or John Tesh!!! You tell 'em, NTM! You tell the world!

-Lol- :p

[noticingthemistake]

That's right beyatch!!!!

[Jimmysticks]

Originally posted by Leedogg
I couldn't tell if it was a woman, or a little boy. At any rate, I'm impressed. Does classical guitar require the most skill from a guitarist? Is it the most difficult discipline?

There is no most difficult genre of music to play.

[basics]

There's a most easiest genre I'm sure, but somebody's always gonna take every genre to another level.

[Hammurabi]

Easiest? That's somewhere between punk and doing Bush covers.

[Meta]

Those classical songs are so easy an 8 year old could play them...... :rolleyes:

:D

yeh i know its an old post...but...o well

[ketsueki15]

those songs arent that easy..Grand Jota is a tough one and so is the paganini piece..grr I dislike that chinese girl

[Meta]

those songs arent that easy..Grand Jota is a tough one and so is the paganini piece..grr I dislike that chinese girl


it was a joke....... :rolleyes:

You know her being like 8 in those videos........jeez no one here canever take a joke........

[Inisfail]

Those classical songs are so easy an 8 year old could play them...... :rolleyes:

I think this is an perfect example of bad and arrogant attitude. :mad:

Ps. I'm just joking, dude! ;) Ds.

[Jolly McJollyson]

Speaking of unbelievable, Az what happened to that clip of you wanking off with them sweeps at about 8458972 notes per second?

[Jamiephofe]

It probably made too many people go blind when they saw it.

:eek:

[iamthe_eggman]

it was a joke....... :rolleyes:

You know her being like 8 in those videos........jeez no one here canever take a joke........


WHY YOU....

[mc9mm]

If you ,like me, want to learn this beutiful song afte seeing
this awesome performance, it's available for download here. (http://gcguitar.myetang.com/)
It's in japanese, but just look in the "composers" scroll box
and you can download gif pics of the note sheets.
This is yet another example of how some songs simply can't be tabbed out,
trying to tab this song would be almost impossible.

[Meta]

If you ,like me, want to learn this beutiful song afte seeing
this awesome performance, it's available for download here. (http://gcguitar.myetang.com/)
It's in japanese, but just look in the "composers" scroll box
and you can download gif pics of the note sheets.
This is yet another example of how some songs simply can't be tabbed out,
trying to tab this song would be almost impossible.


acctualy yeh they can..............

You can find tabs for most of the songs on there that sound the same.
Like La catedral,I learned it from a tab all 3 parts and it Sounds just the same.

[mc9mm]

Well of course it can be done, but if you have'nt heard the song,
it's alot more difficult to figure out the dotted notes, crescendos,
8th's, 16th's, pauses, etc etc with a tab.
My experience is that you never really know how it's supposed to
sound with a tab, they're just never accurate.

[Cryptic Excretions]

Hmm, how about that. Kinda makes me wish I started playing when I left the womb. Well, time for some longer practice sessions. Some day I'll play like that...some day.

[Azrael]

Speaking of unbelievable, Az what happened to that clip of you wanking off with them sweeps at about 8458972 notes per second?

nothing.. should still be where it was.

[Jolly McJollyson]

nothing.. should still be where it was.

Can't remember where it was. Where is it?

[Jolly McJollyson]

This reminds me of the time I saw David Russel, now THAT was unbelievable.

[Azrael]

Can't remember where it was. Where is it?

http://www.mind-gate.com/GT/

its that arpcrap thing - and thats exactly what it is - crap *LOL* :D

[kingdavid]

I haven't taken the time to read this thread until now,I've been trying to download the clips but they're much too big for the connection I'm using.But tonight I'll leave them downloading(the cyber cafe I use has granted me this favour) overnite,then tomorrow I burn them to CD and take them home with me.
About classical musicians not composing and all that,I have a contrary opinion:
I thought that improvising was creating something that doesn't exist,and on the fly.Isn't that called composing by another name?If one guy improvs and plays on his guitar,and another writes what they hear in their heads on a piece of paper(in note form),what's the difference?It's all creation!If you ask me,composition,improvising,these are just different perspectives of the same animal,really.
But then again,I guess it's a bit like raising the question of whether an actor who works from a script can do stand up comedy or mime,and vice versa?
Hmm.

[kingdavid]

I finally watched the videos.
:eek: :eek:
I can safely state that when I grow up(I'm 25),I want to become a guitarist.What is that stuff she plays with her fretting hand without using her picking hand?!?!?Is it that I'm underexposed to these things(and that sounds a bit funny to me,coz I work in a photo studio) or what?
The downside is,whoever said her arrangements become monotonous after a while was right.They do.My gut reaction was that he/she was just hating,but it's true.
All the same, I want to become a guitarist when I grow up.

[ketsueki15]

I still dont see how you guys can say that Koyunbaba was monotonous and how how Grand Jota was monotonous and along with her other songs...Whats so monotonous about them? Maybe its you might not like the sound of her guitar but those works (that she didnt right) are are far from being "monotanous".. Maybe I see it from a different point of view because I play the classical guitat but who knows..

[kingdavid]

Maybe I'm looking at it from a different perspective too,but I'd say that there's a difference between saying a coupla songs are monotonous,and saying that the arrangements are monotonous.
I said(and I think the other guy too said)that the arrangements are monotonous,in fact,get monotonous,after a while.That moving from one song to the next,there's nothing markedly different in her flow.
If someone played seven songs whose arrangements were all similar to______(your all time favourite here),that won't make the songs monotonous.But the arrangements just might be.
I'm I saying anything?

[godseye777]

[COLOR=Blue]WOW. that was pretty good. I mean especialy for her age. :eek: But how the heck? ya know what i mean. who is her instructer? Ive only sean the first one and i already know i need to get ahold of this person. that must have taken yrs.She must a been practicing when she three or four.or five or six. or seven or eight.or nine or ten .No not nine or ten maybe just maybe 7 or 8 but i think a little younger.I ve only been going for 2 yrs and im ok? i guess. i need an instructer who is willing to teach a 13 yr old. ya know i need baby steps. or like maybe teen age steps. little teenage steps or ya little teeenage steps yea ok now um yeah. :D

[godseye777]

hey the one that goes bby finger_crusher? ya well have you heard better Classical guitar from a 12yr old girl though. From Asia of all places were its so over populated that well i dont know what they do about that but hey man u gotta admit she's good
:eek:

[godseye777]

sorry finger_crusher i didnt read on i'll do tyhat from now on so to not embarass myself :o

[iamthe_eggman]

Whoa, easy there, cowboy...

[Meta]

OMG IM GONNA DIE THERE NOT WORKIGN ANYMORE?!!!@#413509gkt!@?$1`

........... :eek:


i was just finishing up on sunburst and starting on choro......grah now i cant hear them any more?!@?234 :(

[celik]

Anybody has any other links to the videos these posted here dont work anymore. :(

[Meta]

grah i had them all saved to my comp but....i had to wipe out hard drives do to a problem...turns outi just need a new motherboard :(