Swedish scales/Scandinavian scales? =/

[Inisfail]

Hi!

You often read of different scales from diffirent places, countries and diffirent cultures..

I'm from sweden, so I gotta ask you: Is there any swedish scales? Or scandinavian scales?

[SLY]

I guess you should know better since you're sweedish.

Anyway , I'm from egypt and I've seen some scales that sound WIERD to me refered to as the egyptian scale or the arabic scale , while the "double hamronic minor" & the "harmonic minor" for example are pretty common in old traditional egyptian and arabic music ... I don't know what basis do they use to name these exotic scales.

[TheDirt]

Well, I listened to a Swedish fiddle player Monday who was a guest lecturer in my World Music class here at the University of Minnesota. From what I heard, it seemed that she used mainly the typical major and minor scales, general 1 - 4 - 5 progressions. What made it interesting was the rhythmic variations in what was otherwise regular folksy fiddle playing.

[Inisfail]

Yeah, SLY, i know.. Haha, it's kinda sad..

The Dirt -> just curious, did your teachers or who they were choose Swedish scales since many swedish emigrants acctaully stayed in Minnesota?

[TheDirt]

She's a lady who lived half her life in Sweden and then immigrated here and teaches at the University. So she didn't choose Swedish music, per se, she was raised with it, and learned there. She was a great player, but again, I saw only major and minor for the most part (I heard a bit of harmonic minor there too)

[Inisfail]

Ah. Cool. By the way, are there any specific american (USA, Canada) scales?

[The Ace]

I guess I would have to say some type of blues or pentatonic scales. Out of all the arts and stuff, Jazz and Blues music is the only thing that America can really call its own. (well then rock came in - thats a different story).

[Inisfail]

Uhm, okay.. Thanks Randy

[TheWizard]

pentatonic is chinese

and I thought jazz originated in gypsy villages in Europe

that might be complete bull****

and according to the Martin Scorcese film, blues originated in the rhythms of Africa

[The Ace]

Thats where blues originated... but the thing is slaves brought to the United States brought this even further...
Eventually it became known as Blues music... and America became its mother. I guess its not exactly the scale that is american, its more of the style of swooping notes and bends to make sounds outside of the original major scale.

[aiwass]

I'm pretty sure Norwegian folk music uses a lot of mixolydian.

[Inisfail]

Norwegien folk music? Is that black metal? =/ *Boring joke*

[TheDirt]

"pentatonic is chinese"
---> pentatonic just means a five note scale. There are several pentatonic scales, many of which originated in China; however, the blues scale, which is a derivative of the minor pentatonic scale (derived from the standard European Aeolian mode), was developed in America.


"and I thought jazz originated in gypsy villages in Europe"
---> the jazz we are talking about is a musical style that evolved in America from American Blues music. The standard 12 bar blues was expanded upon and made more complicated, then chord-scale relationships came about, and jazz was born - a truly American musical style.

Blues | F7 | F7 | F7 | F7| Bb7 | Bb7 | F7 | F7 | C7 | Bb7 | F7 | C7 |

evolved into

Jazz | F7 | Bb7 | F7 | Cm7 - B7 | Bb7 | Bdim | F7/C - C#dim | Dm7 | Gm7 | Gb13 | F7 | C7 |

See how Blues and Jazz are related?

[AIC]

I think that in arabic music the normal scales aply exept they move the 7th step in the scale one half step up.
Not sure, but try it when you play and hear the difference

[The Ace]

Whoa! Haven't seen this thread in ages. That was back when I was Rrhoads154! :p