View Full Version : Hendrix vrs. Perry
Axl_Rose
02-10-2004, 02:03 PM
I think Joe Perry is way better basically. Ive given Henrdix a good shot, listen to laodsa his stuff cos my pals loves him. But comparing what I say to perrys guitar work for Aerosmith, theres no competition.
Perry is one of the all time greats in my eyes!
Tele Master
02-10-2004, 04:03 PM
I dunno, not a big fan of either, but I think Jimi is better. They both relied on the pentatonic scale, 99% of the time. I think Jimi's stuff takes longer to get used to, where as Aerosmith stuff is alot more "pop/rock" as opposed to "super-weird-rock".
Axl_Rose
02-10-2004, 04:56 PM
Im refering more to the 70s perry, man his live performances are awesome, to me, way more impressive than hendrix. Its kinda weird how you hear names like Slash and Zakk Wilde all tha time on here, which dont get me wrong I like too, but Perry so beyond those guys its not real!
Yngtchie Blacksteen
02-11-2004, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by Axl_Rose
Im refering more to the 70s perry, man his live performances are awesome, to me, way more impressive than hendrix.
Yeah, cause Hendrix was alive in the 70's and was able to "compete" with Perry...:rolleyes:
Axl_Rose
02-11-2004, 02:38 PM
I said "The 70s Perry", as in that era of Perrys career you smart arse!
Learn how to interpret grammar properly before you post cocky spam like that!
[Edited by Axl_Rose on 02-11-2004 at 01:46 PM]
Yngtchie Blacksteen
02-11-2004, 03:28 PM
Your thread is worthless anyway, as you dare to compare Hendrix with a ordinary cock-rocker like Perry. Hendrix = God, they should teach that in school...
I Suffer
02-11-2004, 03:41 PM
I perfer perry, not a big fan of jimi
Polera
02-11-2004, 09:09 PM
Perry definitly but i give some respect to hendrix forging new ways that Perry never has or will.
jleraan
02-12-2004, 02:24 PM
I don't think this thread is dumb at all. I've listened to both Hendrix and Aerosmith. And I have to say that at this point, I prefer Joe Perry. Especially his solo style. But now, I'm no expert on Hendrix, I may change my mind after listening closer to his songs, but today, I'd choose Perry.
However, the songs I've heard by Hendrix have a special atmosphere in them, and I guess Hendrix is at least just as good as Perry when it comes to writing songs.
BUT I am into the Joe Perry guitar style. Listen to the riffs and solo's. Listen to the Dude Looks Like A Lady solo. I can't get enough of all those rhythmic phrases. (please don't say Perry is not the one playing that solo?)
Anyway, interesting discussion!
Slow Diver
02-12-2004, 05:53 PM
You all must be kidding...For me Joe Perry is not anywhere near Hendrix
TheWizard
02-12-2004, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by Slow Diver
You all must be kidding...For me Joe Perry is not anywhere near Hendrix
I'm really suprised there hasn't been more responses like this one
Jimi all the way, Perry had his moments but in my mind Perry was just a Jimmy Page rip-off
pricklepuss
02-12-2004, 07:11 PM
jimi, easily...... just think about the context in which they have created their music. jo perry doesnt even come close to jimi, perry is only 'of' his genre
Axl_Rose
02-12-2004, 07:50 PM
The 'dude(looks like a lady)' solo is simply awesome!
I really dont see how you can class Perry as a 'cock rocker' his biggest fans will surely appreciate his 70s style of playing! This live performances of the 70s were mind blowing, his guitar soloing is up there with the best.
Im a Slash fan at heart, but slash owes a lot to perry! If you havent hear all of perrys stuff then you cant really coment on this topic, and if you think this topic is dumb they why reply to it :rolleyes:
Axl_Rose
02-12-2004, 07:54 PM
I just think Perry is one of the most underrated guitarists ever! You hear SLash, Hammet and Wilde talked about everyday on here but Perry is a league above those guys!
Jolly McJollyson
02-12-2004, 10:35 PM
Boy I've never seen this before...Perry kicks ass! No, Jimi is God!!! No, Perry ROCKS!!! No, Jimi Rocks Double with a twist of lemon!!! Whatever. These two are apples and oranges, no comparison.
Axl_Rose
02-13-2004, 07:01 AM
Heh Im really pleased to hear theres more perry fans out there! I think Aerosmith are possible the best US rock band ever... infact yea, its offical :)
Slow Diver
02-14-2004, 05:43 AM
Originally posted by Axl_Rose
Heh Im really pleased to hear theres more perry fans out there! I think Aerosmith are possible the best US rock band ever... infact yea, its offical :)
I'm sorry but this is simply hilarious...I laughed so much that my still hurts LOL
Neil22
02-18-2004, 12:14 AM
omg this is nuts..Joe perry is a snow flake in blizzard.. jimi being the blizzard haha. lil extreme but... oh well. You got to remember hendrix was before perry really. what hendrix did for guitar rock was never done before, he was the true pioneer. the first an orginal he toook the guitar to a new level, to the max. he died in 1970 so of course people could be better technically or w/e songs.. but theose 4 years that he had changed the world forever, setting the guidlines for what to do and what not. if he was around today who knows. jimi was a improviser a lot, and he played with 100% pure feeling, i cant say ive seen someone playing with some much passion. closet in my book is SRV.
Lordathestrings
02-19-2004, 01:20 AM
Joe Perry was very good at doing the same sort of things that every other rocker tries to do. Jimi Hendrix was doing things nobody had ever done before! To render the comparison even less valid, consider that Joe played blues-based rock, but Jimi was actually a rock-based jazz artist.
Tank_Simmons
02-20-2004, 12:35 PM
This is a very fair post. I love both guitarists, but I give a slight edge to Hendrix....a very slight edge. Perry is a god no doubt, but there is something about Hendrix's licks that reminds me why I wanted to play guitar in the first place. The only other guy who does that for me is the Zeus of guitar, Clapton. Anyway, great topic of discussion here.....you don't hear Perry's name all that often and it's a shame because he's so good.
Axl_Rose
02-20-2004, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by Slow Diver
I'm sorry but this is simply hilarious...I laughed so much that my still hurts LOL
If you laughed that much then you no nothing about Joe Perry, hes an awesome guitarist. Whats the point in replying to this if your only fimiliar with one of the two guitarists!
Yngtchie Blacksteen
02-20-2004, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by Axl_Rose
If you laughed that much then you no nothing about Joe Perry, hes an awesome guitarist. Whats the point in replying to this if your only fimiliar with one of the two guitarists!
*calls grammar-police*
Zeppelin
02-20-2004, 05:56 PM
Hendrix wasnt a jazz based rock guitar player.
He was a stoner. That summarises it completley.
I think hendrix is the most overated guitar player *EVER*. Ritchie Blackmore was there when Hendrix was there, Jimmy Page, Clapton, B.B King, Johnny Winter.. Lots of guitar players who were much much better (or at least equal to hendrix ) and played +- same kind of music he did.
Besides, even if he were the first player to do this and that, it still doesnt turn him into such a great player.
Its like saying Robert Johnson or whoever was the first guy to play blues on the radio is the greatest guitar player and better than all the people you have nowadays , just because he was the first guy to play the blues on the radio.
Axl_Rose
02-20-2004, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Yngtchie Blacksteen
*calls grammar-police*
Erm... what I posted was 100% grammatically correct...
Lordathestrings
02-20-2004, 09:40 PM
Yes, but you can't spell!
Raskolnikov
02-20-2004, 11:24 PM
You guys have no idea how many times I've had to stop myself from "fixing" people's posts.
iamthe_eggman
02-21-2004, 12:30 AM
Hear hear!!
TheWizard
02-21-2004, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by Zeppelin
Hendrix wasnt a jazz based rock guitar player.
He was a stoner. That summarises it completley.
I think hendrix is the most overated guitar player *EVER*. Ritchie Blackmore was there when Hendrix was there, Jimmy Page, Clapton, B.B King, Johnny Winter.. Lots of guitar players who were much much better (or at least equal to hendrix ) and played +- same kind of music he did.
Besides, even if he were the first player to do this and that, it still doesnt turn him into such a great player.
Its like saying Robert Johnson or whoever was the first guy to play blues on the radio is the greatest guitar player and better than all the people you have nowadays , just because he was the first guy to play the blues on the radio.
I used to somewhat feel the same way as this, but looking past his soloing Jimi did things with chord inverstions and improvisation that has never been duplicated
Jimi was somewhat before all of those guys you mentioned except BB
Watching Jimi play you could see his playing came from another place
Axl_Rose
02-21-2004, 09:24 AM
I can spell!! What did I spell wrong?!?! 'no' as in knowledge is simply shorthand! G-sus! I graduate in May! Of course I can spell!!!
Yngtchie Blacksteen
02-21-2004, 12:33 PM
One question: why compare Perry to Hendrix of all people? Are their styles similar or something, why did you choose him?
sambob
02-21-2004, 12:39 PM
Hmm, I think Aerosmith is perhaps one of the worst bands in the history of rock music.
And I also think Joe Perry is just another boring blues/rock guitarists. Nothing special about him at all.
Slow Diver
02-21-2004, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by Axl_Rose
Originally posted by Slow Diver
I'm sorry but this is simply hilarious...I laughed so much that my still hurts LOL
If you laughed that much then you no nothing about Joe Perry, hes an awesome guitarist. Whats the point in replying to this if your only fimiliar with one of the two guitarists!
I know quite a lot about aerosmith because I listened to them in early high school, so I'm not just bashing.
noticingthemistake
02-21-2004, 01:16 PM
I think this is a fair post although yes there styles are different. In my opinion Perry is a very good guitarist in pop music and yeah could be considered underrated. I also don't think anyone can compare to hendrix, ANYONE! Even though perry is a great guitarist, you can't possibably compare him to the name that will forever be associated with rock guitar.
Lordathestrings
02-21-2004, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by Axl_Rose
If you laughed that much then you no nothing about Joe Perry, hes an awesome guitarist. Whats the point in replying to this if your only fimiliar with one of the two guitarists! If you laughed that much, then you know nothing about Joe Perry. He's an awesome guitarist. What's the point in replying to this if you're only familiar with one of the two guitarists!
I've never been to university. That's one of the few regrets I have. I wish you all of the best.
Peace out.
L. :)
Axl_Rose
02-21-2004, 04:23 PM
No wonder you never got into uni, there shouldnt be a comma after 'much' and a '.' before 'hes an awesome guitarist'!
LOL - who cares about apostrophes too!!
Sambob - What are you on?!?!? Worst bands in rock history?!?
Jolly McJollyson
02-21-2004, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Axl_Rose
No wonder you never got into uni, there shouldnt be a comma after 'much' and a '.' before 'hes an awesome guitarist'!
LOL - who cares about apostrophes too!!
Sambob - What are you on?!?!? Worst bands in rock history?!?
HAHAHAHAHA!!! You moron! There HAS TO BE a comma after "much;" it's a dependent clause!!! There also HAS TO BE a period before "He's an awesome guitarist," because without it, you would have a run-on. Who cares about apostrophes, you ask? I'm an English major, and I guarantee that if I turned in a paper to my professors without including the necessary apostrophes, I would fail that paper. This evidence would bring one to the conclusion that those with any wish to convey their thoughts on written paper in a coherent and proper way would care about apostrophes. L...O...L
Jolly McJollyson
02-21-2004, 04:44 PM
By the by, put your punctuation INSIDE the quotation marks and use the single quotation marks only when you're marking a quote inside a quote.
Lordathestrings
02-21-2004, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by Axl_Rose
No wonder you never got into uni, there shouldnt be a comma after 'much' and a '.' before 'hes an awesome guitarist'!Check it with an English teacher, Axl. As for university, I didn't go because after high school I was a ******-up druggie! But even then I knew how to write coherently.
Axl_Rose
02-21-2004, 07:50 PM
I graduate in May... at the Universtiy of St Andrews which is the best in Scotland, third best in the UK I think.
I still disagree with the period and comma, perhaps it different between the US and UK becuase theres no way youd need a comma before "hes an awesome guitarist!"
This is a music forum, who cares about perfect grammar, this whole argument stems from me getting annoyed at people using zero commas and periods and thus making there posts crap to read!!
And I object to being called a "moro", you dont know me!
Axl_Rose
02-21-2004, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Lordathestrings
I didn't go because after high school I was a ******-up druggie!
Your point being... you were too immature and irresponsible to value an education?!?! The fact you can say that without a shred of shame is pretty sad.
I meet people like this all the time, people who didnt go to uni so they are bitter and resentful to those who did. They try to know things you dont know and beat you at stuff just so they can say "Ha! and he goes to uni!?!?" :rolleyes:
Excuse me for tryna make sumin of myself! Slag off my grammar all you like!
The tone of this post was meant to be melodramatic :)
Yngtchie Blacksteen
02-21-2004, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by Yngtchie Blacksteen
One question: why compare Perry to Hendrix of all people? Are their styles similar or something, why did you choose him?
sambob
02-21-2004, 09:24 PM
Sambob - What are you on?!?!? Worst bands in rock history?!?
Well, why not? Aerosmith is just a joke in my book. Just another of the many bands that took all the great work prog rock bands did in the early 70s... and proved it was all for nothing (the public still wanted ****ty music, as was proved by the popular rock bands just a few years later).
Lordathestrings
02-21-2004, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by Axl_Rose
Originally posted by Lordathestrings
I didn't go because after high school I was a ******-up druggie!
Your point being... you were too immature and irresponsible to value an education?!?! The fact you can say that without a shred of shame is pretty sad.
I meet people like this all the time, people who didnt go to uni so they are bitter and resentful to those who did. They try to know things you dont know and beat you at stuff just so they can say "Ha! and he goes to uni!?!?" :rolleyes:
Excuse me for tryna make sumin of myself! Slag off my grammar all you like!
The tone of this post was meant to be melodramatic :) "without a shred of shame"? What post were you reading? I said I regret that omission.
"too immature and irresponsible to value an education?!?!" Mea culpa (see above).
"Excuse me for tryna make sumin of myself! Slag off my grammar all you like!" Noted. You're not there yet, nobby. It's a long journey!
basics
02-21-2004, 11:08 PM
I didn't read all the crap that comes with a massive thread like this but my opinion is Hendrix. They're both blues based. With respect to technique it's Hendrix and with respect to catchy radio tunes that I love it's whatever his name is. One of them died when it was corporately wise and the other guy probably should be. I mean, anybody can play an aerosmith solo by ear and not so much a hendrix one.
However, aerosmith is classic rock, hendrix more psychodelic rock (spelling probably). Aerosmith is more mainstream but that could go to either side of the argument.
Axl_Rose
02-22-2004, 06:52 AM
Originally posted by basics
anybody can play an aerosmith solo by ear
No way!
Jolly McJollyson
02-22-2004, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by Axl_Rose
I still disagree with the period and comma, perhaps it different between the US and UK becuase theres no way youd need a comma before "hes an awesome guitarist!"
I'm sorry for beating a dead horse, but dependent clauses exist in the UK and the US. I know it's hard not to be stubborn, but please understand that this is NOT a matter of opinion. This is a grammatical rule which I do not like to see broken. The clause before "He's an awesome guitarist" is dependent; you MUST use a comma.
Yngtchie Blacksteen
02-22-2004, 06:46 PM
I ask again:
Originally posted by Yngtchie Blacksteen
One question: why compare Perry to Hendrix of all people? Are their styles similar or something, why did you choose him?
Axl_Rose
02-22-2004, 07:07 PM
You cant see any similarities with Perry and Hendrix?!? Cos I can!
And why not compare them. The post was meant to illustrate more than anything that Perry is extremely underrated!
If I wana start a thread of 'Bread vrs Water' then Ill blooming well do that!
Man I love this forum :D
Lordathestrings
02-22-2004, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by Axl_Rose
... If I wana start a thread of 'Bread vrs Water' then Ill blooming well do that!... Waes Gael! :D
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