Marcus Paus

[Death55]

I keep hearing about this person on these forums and that he can play 466.7 notes per second or something like that. Can some get me the sound file of him playing this fast. I just dont think its possible to play that fast. If this was true then why havnt i heard about him before anywhere ? Also if u put a video of it then maybe that would be better proof as a sound file could be easily speeded up etc.

[Azrael]

Originally posted by Death55
If this was true then why havnt i heard about him before anywhere ?

because speed is (from a certain point on) absolutely uninterresting. we are musicians, not airforce pilots.

[aiwass]

That number is incorrect, and I think there might have been a typo in Guiness' Book of World Records. The actual record was more around the likes of 46 notes per second. They got the comma wrong.

To make a long story short, he set the record early in the 90s, when he was in his teens, and had pretty sloppy (but insanely fast) picking technique. He practiced so much that he didn't sleep for a few days around the time of the record attempt. As a guitarist, he was pretty sloppy and sterile-sounding when not playing at warp speeds, but as a songwriter and musician he had a lot of cool musical ideas and wrote some neat songs.

Nowadays he doesn't play guitar anymore, and is a full-time classical composer. As for the MP3, there is none of his speed record, although a documentary about him and his record was broadcasted on Norwegian television.

Here's a clip of him playing with the band Mr. Cucumber. The other guitarist is Håkon Hogganvik, although all the über-fast alternate picking is courtesy of Marcus.

http://perso.club-internet.fr/fabienm/paus/secret.mp3

[Azrael]

thats what i mean by absolutely uninteresting

[aiwass]

I don't know... I really like the song. Kind of like cartoon music. And these guys were in their teens when that was recorded. He's attended the Oslo musical conservatory after that, so I bet he's matured a bit since then. A good example of serious shredding though. When you look past the sloppiness, I think the playing is pretty cool. Some really cool melodies within all that speed.

[Ego]

Funny stuff.

Anyway, if you want to hear a guitar being played about mid-40s per second and NOT in the typical scale/arp style check this out from our old buddy Bofatron -- the greatest spoof shredder of all time:

http://www.station185.com/kronoson/kronosonic/Demos_Sounds/Hell%20Ride%20Lick%2032nd%20notes%20at%20240%20bpm%20Bofatron%20Sofasaurus.mp3

And this was medium speed for Bofa. Ultimately, he worked his way up to speeds of about 70 notes per second, got bored with it all, and ran off to South America ;) If you dig the avant rock sound of Vernon Reid and his Dolphy-inspired shards of chaos solos then you might appreciate Bofatron.

http://www.station185.com/kronoson/kronosonic/site/bofatron2.htm


http://kronosonic.com

[Ego]

Oops, my bad, that shard is 64 notes per second.

240 bpm 16th notes if I'm not mistaken.

There used to be an mp3.com page called Bofatron's Specimen Lab and it had quite a few of these licks from 20 notes per second right on up to mid-60s.



[Edited by Ego on 11-27-2003 at 12:44 PM]

[Death55]

thats not bad. Why the hell did he quit guitar? He could of beeen really famous if he just got rid of the sloppy playing and tryed to impove on it without losing speed. How do u know about him though ? Do u know him personally ?

[Azrael]

Sorry ego, but that is just pure, utter noise. i cant make out ANY notes at all. this can be anything from 7 million notes a second to just droping the guitar down the stairs. i wonder who is able to make out 60 notes a second there. when i tried to shred after like 3 months of play it sounded exactly the same. so i think thats complete nonsense.

[Death55]

ahhh, even if that was about 60 notes a second .. i didnt sound good. I'm sure i could make that kind of noise on my guitar just by smashing all the strings. Or as azrael said.. by dropping it down the stairs :)

[Ego]

You're not supposed to "like it" at all. The Bofatron thing wasn't even about music but only in the way people responded to the purely contingent. It was supposed to be nonsense. If you check out the page it is partially explained. It was a psychology experiment and you'd have to know a whole hell of a lot about the precise kind of psychological theory they were working from to know why "nonsense" was important.

The only thing important about it is that you think it is nonsense and then how you judge it after that. They had a whole box full of hysterical email and whatnot documenting reactions to it.

One would be tempted to think that all reactions to Bofatron would be hostile because it is nonsense but, on the contrary, they found that way more than 50% really liked it with a substantial number of people like you who just thought it was crap. And then there were the extremes (5% on one side and %5 on the other side) who thought Bofatron was (A) the devil himself or (B) a god.

It was all great fun and, like his site says, he's not laughing with you, he's laughing at you. ;)

[Ego]

And, of course, there were people that didn't laugh at Bofatron at all but I think the joke was definately at their expense.

(A) metal heads
(B) fans of Yngwie (and assorted clones)
(C) older "blues" guys
(D) Emo and grunge

They really had a problem with Bofatron.

And I know that they would have been interested to see that someone with "Death" in their name disliked it ;)

[Edited by Ego on 11-27-2003 at 03:06 PM]

[Ego]

Wow, this very discussion happened three years ago on this very site over the same exact piece of guitaring

http://www.guitartricks.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=1103

Now, that's funny.

[The Ace]

I just have a question, Why do you guys care so much about others playing? I mean so what if the guy can play fast or whatever, or if he sux and is really sloppy. Stop worrying about the music one guy is making and worry about yours! If you think its bad, then go out there and play it better!! For crying out loud!! It doesn't matter if he's sloppy........ Doesn't matter if he can play fast........ Now that you've heard this, get offline and go play guitar and come up with something better than anything you've heard, then post it here so more people can argue about it!! It's better than actually being one of the ones arguing.

[Azrael]

well - with that attitude there would hardly be anything to be discussed and we could close that board.

[Ego]

Yeah, nothing wrong with talking, discussion, and disagreements at all...I can only play guitar so much before my fingers fall off...


Anyway, another thing with speed (and is there any other topic to get people worked up over?) is the envy fator -- Bofatron used to get slagged hard by a few guys at Guitar.com (the kind of guys who are painfully slave-ish to neo-classical stuff) but, for every person to bash B. he'd get 10 people signing up to his message board begging to be let in on the secret. The best was when the guy who railed the hardest emailed B. on the side and asked for an "exclusive interview" for his web site. LMAO! Publically he had to appear uber-hostile but secretly he really wanted to be able to play at unlimited speeds. :)

I see Bofatron as a riddle and there was no right or wrong answer to the question. You either got it or you didn't. Either way what was interesting was not if you got it or not but why. Some personality types can't solve the riddle except by destroying the riddle itself.

http://kronosonic.com

[The Ace]

See ur point there! I'm saying there's nothing wrong with that but it just seemed like you guys wer bickering. Wat eva........

[aiwass]

Basically the whole Marcus Paus thing has been done to death, and seeing as he's quit playing, you can only talk SO much about his guitar playing before you've covered it all. Let's move on, shall we?

[iamthe_eggman]

... aren't you Bofatron, Ego?

Those links are dead...

[Ego]

Oh, yeah, I played all the guitar for all that stuff (sorry, I thought that was obvious -- that's all made specific on the bofatron and ego pages) but the Bofatron deal with a team effort of sorts...so I tend to think of "him" as a separate and real individual -- a kind of obscene excess or alter personality that doesn't get out very often any more...which is too bad. Who was more fun than Bof?

;)

man, my site is down! I suppose it will be back up in a while. It appears that the provider is down.

[Edited by Ego on 11-28-2003 at 07:30 PM]

[JSV]

...but, for every person to bash B. he'd get 10 people signing up to his message board begging to be let in on...

I don't know which pieces you cats checked out??
After listening to "Hell Ride Lick...", virtually ANY musician with an ear & a feel for the quality of melodic content will find that to be a buch of noise. SURE, in its own respect; it's MUSIC. I'm sure Paganini could've written music(??) like that but chose to retain SOME of his dignity.

"BASHING", I feel, would be a more appropriate term if people were making judgmental comments about the PERSON based on what he chooses to perform/produce. If one voices a comment or an opinion that a PARTICULAR score is not interesting (or what have you), I wouldn't see THAT as "bashing" a player??
(If THAT's what people were doing, I don't think it's fair.)

I heard that "Secret-Mr. Cucumber" (same cats playing?? I dunno'?), but there's obviously content that most experienced musicians would find to possess a redeeming quality, no?? (even though a few vioce-leadings in the faster sections f*q'd w/my lower intestine) These cats are certainly no Grimmies', Daddy-0'. They're like, Reeeal Solid-Senders.

Whatever "gets-yer'-rox'-off"! If more speed proves something to some cats, then it just DOES. The more experienced I became; the less I found SPEED being something that "turned-on" listeners. (Unless they were guitarists vying for a competition, with "something to prove"-!??)
If you plan on selling records, FIRST you must generally determine which audience you plan on ENTERTAINING?

If someone like the BOF-a-nator is playing to break a speed record, he/she has my best wishes, sincerely!

If they're SELLING RECORDS with that stuff'... I'll make my own noise, thank you...


~JSV

[Ego]

yeah, like we already pointed out, it is and continues to be noise. Thanks for restating the obvious.

[JSV]

Originally posted by Ego
yeah, like we already pointed out, it is and continues to be noise. Thanks for restating the obvious.


Sorry, my brother. I didn't know the thread was a closed invite??



~JSV

[finger_cruncher]

You know, that supposed Guiness World Record of Marcus Paus is a load of crap. I've searched Guiness's online archives thoroughly (http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com) and there is NO record for the fastest guitarist. In fact, there are no results for Marcus Paus whatsoever. Unless someone can provide an actual link of the record to Guiness's website or scan the page out of the Guiness World Record book (as a jpeg or gif), it is not true.

[aiwass]

They no longer acknowledge the record, and won't allow people to try out for it anymore. That could be why. Supposedly it WAS published in a Guiness' edition, I'm guessing early- to mid-nineties, however there was also a documentary following the record attempt on Norwegian TV a few years ago. I'd really like to get my hands on that tape, and put it up on Kazaa.

[aiwass]

Originally posted by Ego
Oops, my bad, that shard is 64 notes per second.

240 bpm 16th notes if I'm not mistaken.

There used to be an mp3.com page called Bofatron's Specimen Lab and it had quite a few of these licks from 20 notes per second right on up to mid-60s.


Sorry to bring this thread back up, but something just dawned on me. 16th notes @ 240 bpm is NOT 64 notes per sec. It's 16 notes per sec. So is your clip 16th notes at 240 bpm, or is it 64 notes per second? If you still think you've done the math right, you may want to reconsider your statements about having reached speeds of 70 nps...

[Ego]

You're right...I meant 16 notes per click not 16th notes...240 clicks per min. x 16 = 3840/60=64nps. But remember it's not to be taken seriously. And if you can honestly listen to any BS and think it was no different or faster than anybody else then you simply don't want to believe it...which is interesting in itself.

Bofatron was just a joke with zero musical validity from the standpoint of mainstream/conventional values. It was just noise -- literally "non-sense", i.e., the guitar played beyond the capacties of "sense." And a whole lot of us used to derive a lot of entertainment and laughter from people who devoted their time and energy in tearing BS down or trying to figure out the "trick." Guitarists are kinda like a herd of sheep -- they all bleet in unison about how unimportant speed is, the importance of taste, restraint, melody, and how they don't care about it but the threads that just go on and on are all about speed, who's the fastest, and how bad the fastest is...but they can't help but gaze in horror like looking at a wreck on the side of the road ;) Bofatron was the most splendid piece of roadkill ever recorded. And they're right! Speed is pointless, totally pointless from the standpoint of music. So why can't guitarists get OVER IT? Ha! People make fools of themselves when they trip over the speed bump.

Many of the old BS demos are still up on the site -- make of them what you will. They sure were fun to make and it sure was fun to play (ironically, few people ever noticed just how *little* speedy playing there was in Bofatron's "music" -- and that's interesting too). Nobody but me knows how it was done or how to do it. And nobody ever will. Some aspects of it were documented in the "blueprints" lessons that a lot of guys on this site have used (and liked a lot) but the decisive aspects are things that can't be reduced to tab or text...There were quite a few novel technical developments in "BS" that have to be taught in person or visually...and despite quite a few BS videos out there nobody was ever able to replicate the feat. One of my little quirks I suppose.

Anyway, those days are long gone and I/we have new fish to fry. Hearing people project about BS used to be fun but now it sounds like a repetitive mantra of the timid and the small.

So long guys. In two weeks I resume recording my Savior Onasis album and there's not even a 32nd note in sight.

http://kronosonic.com

[Edited by Ego on 12-01-2003 at 11:53 PM]

[Ego]

And if you need a lot faster then give this a spin. I did this well after the BS project was over (which goes to show you that it's like the night of the living dead, it just keeps coming back). Here, the speed is used as a textural effect -- kinda like a sheet or a wall. And, you know, if you're a neo-classical butt rocker then the frame of refrence will be totally lost. The idea of sheets of sound only makes sense to people who listen to albums like Interstellar Space and since I doubt there's another person on this board who has even heard of it then it's all rather pointless to debate the intent.

Anyway, from 2:27-2:32 it goes totally off the scale -- streams of notes on top of notes.

http://www.station185.com/kronoson/kronosonic/Demos_Sounds/Jupiter%20Blues%20by%20Infinite%20Ego.mp3

A good illustration of the sheets of sound is this:

http://www.station185.com/kronoson/kronosonic/Demos_Sounds/Jupiter%20Proximity%20by%20Bofatron.mp3

Again, the above caveat applies.

You guys and your rentless search for "the fastest" and "the record" and all that other *nonsense* ;) ...I don't envy you because you're never going to find what you're looking for. But at least it'll be a good source of entertainment.

[Edited by Ego on 12-02-2003 at 01:28 AM]

[Superhuman]

I just checked out Marcus Paus, have to admit I never of him before this thread. And yes, that is the fastest playing I have ever heard, horrible, but insanely fast. I'm a little suspicious though, I tried to match one of the high notes on my own 24 fret axe and found that it was at least 5 maybe 6 frets higher... does this mean that he was playing on a 7 string? Or did he tune up so high that the strings were on the verge of snapping at all times or... that the track was sped up? I'm interested to know because if the guy could actually play that fast, regardless of how it sounds, that's pretty damn impressive.

[CW14]

I just checked out Marcus Paus, have to admit I never of him before this thread. And yes, that is the fastest playing I have ever heard, horrible, but insanely fast. I'm a little suspicious though, I tried to match one of the high notes on my own 24 fret axe and found that it was at least 5 maybe 6 frets higher... does this mean that he was playing on a 7 string? Or did he tune up so high that the strings were on the verge of snapping at all times or... that the track was sped up? I'm interested to know because if the guy could actually play that fast, regardless of how it sounds, that's pretty damn impressive.
You might be onto something here... I'll try slowing it down on my computer and see at what speed the pick attacks sound normal

Or perhaps he was playing some sort of monster guitar like Azreal's Dragon (32 frets or something)

I am also amazed that he wrote something that bad. If that's what too much technique practice does to your songwriting... I hope I never get that fast.

[Leedogg]

I'd like to see a video of him playing it...

[Fretfire]

I'd like to see a video of him playing it...

Sorry buddy, There are no video available for Marcus Paus. Even the controversial record he did was removed by Guiness. I e-mailed the Guiness Official 2 years ago asking for it, and they said they dont consider that record to be official because they admitted that there is a mistake in counting the notes-per-second, because their machine counted even the extraenous noises and the blurs created by the distortion and his stacked amp. Marcus Paus refused to play with out his own amp. I wonder whats in it

Anyway here are some videos where Francesco Fareri played some passages of the "Caspersens Secret Fetish" where he played it as FAST as Paus did.
If you want to see that insane handspeed. better check this links, you will see what it looks like to sound and play like that. And if you have that Marcus Paus MP3, Im sure you will recognize those blurry distorted guitar passages and lines from that song. Check this Francesco Fareri cover.

http://www.francescofareri.com/lesson_legatoplaying.mpg

http://www.francescofareri.com/lesson_alternatepicking.mpg

[Akira]

Sorry buddy, There are no video available for Marcus Paus. Even the controversial record he did was removed by Guiness. I e-mailed the Guiness Official 2 years ago asking for it, and they said they dont consider that record to be official because they admitted that there is a mistake in counting the notes-per-second, because their machine counted even the extraenous noises and the blurs created by the distortion and his stacked amp. Marcus Paus refused to play with out his own amp. I wonder whats in it

Anyway here are some videos where Francesco Fareri played some passages of the "Caspersens Secret Fetish" where he played it as FAST as Paus did.
If you want to see that insane handspeed. better check this links, you will see what it looks like to sound and play like that. And if you have that Marcus Paus MP3, Im sure you will recognize those blurry distorted guitar passages and lines from that song. Check this Francesco Fareri cover.

http://www.francescofareri.com/lesson_legatoplaying.mpg

http://www.francescofareri.com/lesson_alternatepicking.mpg

Extremely fast, but extremely boring.

[Pantallica1]

Sorry buddy, There are no video available for Marcus Paus. Even the controversial record he did was removed by Guiness. I e-mailed the Guiness Official 2 years ago asking for it, and they said they dont consider that record to be official because they admitted that there is a mistake in counting the notes-per-second, because their machine counted even the extraenous noises and the blurs created by the distortion and his stacked amp. Marcus Paus refused to play with out his own amp. I wonder whats in it

Anyway here are some videos where Francesco Fareri played some passages of the "Caspersens Secret Fetish" where he played it as FAST as Paus did.
If you want to see that insane handspeed. better check this links, you will see what it looks like to sound and play like that. And if you have that Marcus Paus MP3, Im sure you will recognize those blurry distorted guitar passages and lines from that song. Check this Francesco Fareri cover.

http://www.francescofareri.com/lesson_legatoplaying.mpg

http://www.francescofareri.com/lesson_alternatepicking.mpg

While I find Fareri very boring in all of his playing, he is very fast and very technical.

Paus was quoted as saying once, "I'm playing so fast the tubes can't reproduce the notes."

[s1625]

How can anyone take a player like Francesco Fareri seriously? How can anyone look up to that garbage?! I seriously cannot fathom it. His playing is so unemotional, uninteresting, and utterly TASTELESS that I can't believe he even gets recognition. The dude plays fast, great. I jack off fast, and that's basically the same thing, so.. Insane picking speed doesn't make the music better. Fareri is the epitome of wank.
Alright, I'm gonna go practice 64th note picking at 300 BPM now, maybe people will think I'm the greatest guitarist ever.

[Fretfire]

Im not impressed with Francesco Fareri nor I admire his extremely fast playing, In fact the first time I saw that video, I laughed my ass out. I just posted it as a response to the question and to show an example how stupid it was for a guitarplayer to play just for speed and not for music's sake.... Id rather listen to other fast players who knows how to use speed at the right context and if the song permits like Steve Vai, Yngwie, Tony MacAlpine and Petrucci rather than somebody who obviously wanks for speed sake.

Any shred guitarist can play that fast with enough practice but not everyone can create quality music even if they can play that fast, In fact I have to honestly admit, not to brag that I can play that fast when Im tripping with my bandmates :D as well as hundreds of unknown guitarist from the rest of the world, Ive seen players in our community play "Chops from Hell" licks at 64th notes, 290 - 310 BPM just for the fun of showing off and it sounds s#*t . Malmsteen, Angelo or Gilbert can also play that fast IF they WANT to, but they choose not to simply because they know Its utterly tasteless... and they dont want to sound Crap. ;) PEACE brothers!!

[s1625]

Hahaha, sweet, somebody who knows what he's talking about ^

Yeah, super fast shredding is really damn boring, but at least there are SOME people who play just as fast as Fareri but actually have a sense of melody..Like Rusty Cooley.

Anyways, here's another Gem from Fareri

http://chopsfromhell.com/fareri6_ex01.mp3

Listen to that BS. It's disgusting. Literally, if Fareri were sitting next to me while I listened to that, I would have kicked him in his teeth, haha. He isn't even a solid player when he's slow, he doesn't flow well and there's fret buzz all over the place. Then when he speeds it up, the decent melody he had going just sounds like a steaming pile of crap.

[Akira]

Hahaha, sweet, somebody who knows what he's talking about ^

Yeah, super fast shredding is really damn boring, but at least there are SOME people who play just as fast as Fareri but actually have a sense of melody..Like Rusty Cooley.

Anyways, here's another Gem from Fareri

http://chopsfromhell.com/fareri6_ex01.mp3

Listen to that BS. It's disgusting. Literally, if Fareri were sitting next to me while I listened to that, I would have kicked him in his teeth, haha. He isn't even a solid player when he's slow, he doesn't flow well and there's fret buzz all over the place. Then when he speeds it up, the decent melody he had going just sounds like a steaming pile of crap.

Man, that guy... sucks!

[Jolly McJollyson]

Im not impressed with Francesco Fareri nor I admire his extremely fast playing, In fact the first time I saw that video, I laughed my ass out. I just posted it as a response to the question and to show an example how stupid it was for a guitarplayer to play just for speed and not for music's sake.... Id rather listen to other fast players who knows how to use speed at the right context and if the song permits like Steve Vai, Yngwie, Tony MacAlpine and Petrucci rather than somebody who obviously wanks for speed sake.

Any shred guitarist can play that fast with enough practice but not everyone can create quality music even if they can play that fast, In fact I have to honestly admit, not to brag that I can play that fast when Im tripping with my bandmates :D as well as hundreds of unknown guitarist from the rest of the world, Ive seen players in our community play "Chops from Hell" licks at 64th notes, 290 - 310 BPM just for the fun of showing off and it sounds s#*t . Malmsteen, Angelo or Gilbert can also play that fast IF they WANT to, but they choose not to simply because they know Its utterly tasteless... and they dont want to sound Crap. ;) PEACE brothers!!
Hmm...when citing guitarists who know when to play fast because it's "appropriate," Yngwie Malmsteen and Michael Angelo Batio should probably not spring to mind.

[Fretfire]

Hmm...when citing guitarists who know when to play fast because it's "appropriate," Yngwie Malmsteen and Michael Angelo Batio should probably not spring to mind.

Ok dude...if you dont like Yngwie or Angelo, lets change it :) , I cant blame others for not liking them because they have a tendency to wank sometimes and harmonic minor scale can be boring if used repeatedly, but I made them an example in comparison with Fareri who doesnt have a sense of melody at all and his only main concern speed, not to mention Im a fan of neo classical so I chose them.

I think Yngwie and Angelo are more quality and better players from that standpoint, atleast they played with "controlled" technique and they combine speed with melody. While Ferari's technique is questionable, his alternate picking is sloppy and hides it with lots of distortion so that we wont hear the unnecessary noises. I wonder if he can play on acoustic guitar which Malmsteen does masterfully both on acoustic or electric.

Ahhh before I forgot, lets replace Malmsteen and Angelo with my other favorite speedsters. SHAWN LANE and AL DIMEOLA will do. I hope you agree with me. ;)

[Akira]

I think Yngwie and Angelo are more quality and better players from that standpoint, atleast they played with "controlled" technique and they combine speed with melody. While Ferari's technique is questionable, his alternate picking is sloppy and hides it with lots of distortion so that we wont hear the unnecessary noises. I wonder if he can play on acoustic guitar which Malmsteen does masterfully both on acoustic or electric.

Even though i'm not a Yngwie or an Angelo fan, I 100% agree with that, well said.

[s1625]

I used a program called The Amazing Slow Downer to slow down that mp3 I posted of Fareri..The part that he plays fast is complete BS. It's not even close to the melody he plays slowly..It's just a bunch of string noise and distortion, with a couple of defined notes played in there.

Al Di Meola is incredible, as is Shawn Lane...I'm not much of a neoclassical guy, but Malmsteen is great, and same with George Bellas, who has some of the cleanest sweeping ever, haha.

[Jolly McJollyson]

Ok dude...if you dont like Yngwie or Angelo, lets change it :) , I cant blame others for not liking them because they have a tendency to wank sometimes and harmonic minor scale can be boring if used repeatedly, but I made them an example in comparison with Fareri who doesnt have a sense of melody at all and his only main concern speed, not to mention Im a fan of neo classical so I chose them.

I think Yngwie and Angelo are more quality and better players from that standpoint, atleast they played with "controlled" technique and they combine speed with melody. While Ferari's technique is questionable, his alternate picking is sloppy and hides it with lots of distortion so that we wont hear the unnecessary noises. I wonder if he can play on acoustic guitar which Malmsteen does masterfully both on acoustic or electric.

Ahhh before I forgot, lets replace Malmsteen and Angelo with my other favorite speedsters. SHAWN LANE and AL DIMEOLA will do. I hope you agree with me. ;)
Point very well taken. I was referring to that tendency to wank, as you guessed, but now I see your point in comparing them to Fareri. Mainly I was commenting on their existence in a list of people who don't wank for speed's sake, because the two of them (especially Angelo) have been known to do that a lot. Even my favorite comp of Yngwie's (Black Star) quickly becomes a wankfest of epic proportions. That said, he certainly is more interesting to listen to than Fareri.

[FireAndIce24]

ego...what song of bostforus ( however the **** u spell it ) have fast thing? that jupiter blues song was really slow and the other jupiter song has soo many effect you can't hear anything. Hes total BS unless hes playing without masking it. Anyone of us could put that much chorus and sound that fast.

[Vai_Rocks]

How can anyone take a player like Francesco Fareri seriously? How can anyone look up to that garbage?! I seriously cannot fathom it. His playing is so unemotional, uninteresting, and utterly TASTELESS that I can't believe he even gets recognition. The dude plays fast, great. I jack off fast, and that's basically the same thing, so.. Insane picking speed doesn't make the music better. Fareri is the epitome of wank.
Alright, I'm gonna go practice 64th note picking at 300 BPM now, maybe people will think I'm the greatest guitarist ever.
Noody said that Francesco Fareri is the greatest guitar player ever.. and who'd say it maybe should be shoot to dead... i mean, Fareri has an amazing technique, but thats something that you have to work hard for, maybe for you or for us is just tasteless what he plays but for him is full of emotions.
Just like Yngwie said "If your music sounds good for you.. is just great.. obvously there'll be people that will disagree with it.. but what matters is if you like your music"
And that's it... now... why Yngwie is so ****in famous and Fareri is just almost unknown?
Because Mr. Malmsteen created a new style, a new music.. that is
Obvously you can't compare Yngwie that is a semi-God with Fareri.. but we're talking about technique, cuz Malmsteen as musician and compositor is just uncomparable, just like Steve Vai, or John Petrucci, Satch, Jason Becker, Mr. Buckethead, Paul Gilbert and all those great shreds...
I hope u understand :cool:

[Vai_Rocks]

As i said up there... there's another shred that people doesn't know very well.. that is Buckethead, hes so emotional and at the same time fast and amazing... i've red that he's the 8th fastest shred...
what do u say...

[Leedogg]

As i said up there... there's another shred that people doesn't know very well.. that is Buckethead, hes so emotional and at the same time fast and amazing... i've red that he's the 8th fastest shred...
what do u say...

Buckethead gets a lot of love around here. His style and skill is so unique and inspirational.

[Jolly McJollyson]

Buckethead gets a lot of love around here. His style and skill is so unique and inspirational.
Monsters and Robots is one of my favorite CDs.

[Superhuman]

Just thought I'd drop in my 10 cents...

I was conned into buying Fareri's first cd "Suspension" by a very dubious set of reviews that said he was the most amazing shredder ever... for the first time ever, I actually threw a cd in the bin after forcing myself to listen to it for about 30 mins. The guy has amazing technique and anyone who says otherwise is just trying to sound macho. Sure, he can play insanely fast but there IS zero emotion in his music, that's because he has no style. If you listen to any of his tracks the music just sounds like a collection of notes fed through midi at 300 bpm. No vibrato, horrible lifeless tone, no slides bends and he sounds even worse when playing at a slower pace. BUT, he could well be the fastest picker out there for what he does.
That said, he is trying something new and he has to be respected for the technique and idea behind his approach (still sounds like **** to my ears). I read an interview with him and he says that he never plays the same piece of music the same twice, that everything he does is improv. This actually makes sense because if you just throw together a load of scales and sweeps without a mellodic direction or theme then you get Fransesco Fareri. Some people love his stuff and he no doubt gets satisfaction from his work so there must be something there. In my mind he is one of the most over rated players of all time along with his buddy Vatali Kuprij (just like Fareri but on a keyboard).
As far an Michael Angelo goes, his one true masterpiece was No Boundaries, the whole under over technique sounds terrible and looks stupid. He's got a new cd coming out soon, looking forward to it as its supposed to be mostly neo-classical. Check out Theodore Ziras for similar technique and speed with far superior composition. Or how about George Bellas for crazy legatto.... or Vinnie Moore for impossible arpeggios?? Vai in my opinion has had his day. His music has gone the way of his fashion sense, arty farty and pretentious (still with a bizarre sense of genius). I reckon his last great work was Alien Love Secrets, things went downhill after that...

[Superhuman]

As for Marcus Paus, listen to his stuff then try to find the highest note on your fretboard... its not there - way past the 24th fret... I reckon his stuff is all sped up big time. His music is more interesting than Fareri but still has no theme or emotional content.

[CW14]

His music is more interesting than Fareri but still has no theme or emotional content.
Are you serious? Is Fareri actually worse? Is it POSSIBLE to write a worse song than that Mr. Cucumber thing?

And yeah, the file's definately been sped up. I'm not even sure that it is Marcus Paus anyway.

[Fretfire]

Your both right dudes, the Marcus Paus myth is over, Im trying to find the highest note on my 24 fret guitar and Its way past there, you need to have tune it about 8 fret higher (32 fret :eek: ) to reach it.

So I consulted my uncle who was a sound engineer and an audio expert, I burned that Caspersens Fetish and brought it to him. And you know what, the results were astounding.....according to him It was definitely SPED UP using a special software and the other thing we discover....it is actually played by two separate lead guitar parts combined and meld into one track, so the result would be insanely fast guitar playing! Its 2X CHEATING !!...Maybe thats the reason it was disqualified by Guiness as the fastest guitar playing ever.

I find it hard to believe at first that it was possible to combine two lead guitar parts in one and Sped it up twice faster....Ive done my research, and i found out it was really played by 2 guys, It was Marcus Paus and his student named Hagon? (it was spelled Norwegian). There I finally believed its true.

Now the only one that remained to be the Fastest for the record is FRANCESCO FARERI.

check this out > http://www.francescofareri.cim/fareri_shred.mpg

But It really doesnt matter coz He sucks BIGTIME, He's the worst Ive seen.

[Superhuman]

Are you serious? Is Fareri actually worse? Is it POSSIBLE to write a worse song than that Mr. Cucumber thing?

And yeah, the file's definately been sped up. I'm not even sure that it is Marcus Paus anyway.

Ferari is actually worse, it's hard to believe untill you actually check him out. At least the guy is actually playing those insane runs though, have to give him that.

[Vai_Rocks]

For the guy who said that Vai lost his musical sense since Alien Love, i just have to say... shut up xD
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About this stuff of "Fareri vs Paus" both are sh¡* for me, anyways if you want to listen fast and a little bit (just a littler) of sense listen to Michael Angelo (another tasteless for me) and Rusty Cooley. I've seen Angelo live once.. and i can say that he really feels hes music, he enjoys it, but i dont like his style anyway. He also is graduated in a college of music.

Whatever, if Vai, Yngwie, Satch, Gilbert and Buckethead wouldnt have born, shreds wouldnt exist :) xD

[Kunundrum]

Guys, speed isn't everything. There's no more sense in this song: http://perso.club-internet.fr/fabienm/paus/secret.mp3

All we're hearing is like, percussive sounds and stuff that sounds like slides. Yeah, so you just played every note on the fretboard but what did the song sound like? Unlike Satch, Vai, Yngwie, and all the other REAL guitar heroes, Marcus was just speed. There's no more sense in playing his songs because they are so fast, you'll probably run out of notes, scales and modes to play in just a 3 minute song. If you play 60 notes a second and you keep that on for 3 minutes, nothing will happen. Nobody will understand ANY of the notes and you don'te even hear them anymore.