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Gainer
10-31-2003, 10:11 PM
I like this band. Afriend got me into them and I think that their music can be addictive.
What do U think?
Digit
10-31-2003, 10:43 PM
I was into em when the first album came out. (10 years ago??) Kinda lost interest after that though.
I guess I liked the first album because at the time it was original and something new but it was too drum machine/keyboard driven for my tastes.
metalisbest
10-31-2003, 11:22 PM
I have never really liked them. They have a couple of good songs, but that is about it.
Raskolnikov
11-01-2003, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by Digit
I was into em when the first album came out. (10 years ago??) Kinda lost interest after that though.
I guess I liked the first album because at the time it was original and something new but it was too drum machine/keyboard driven for my tastes.
If you consider stealing Skinny Puppy samples "original and something new."
Slasher
11-01-2003, 06:28 AM
I like some of there songs. Never bought an album, I might get round to it when I've bought everything I want buy I wont be rushing. Quite like hearing them when I'm in a club.
metalisbest
11-01-2003, 07:30 AM
I sure do like one of the persons that used to be part of the NIN touring group, Richard Patrick, because he is that mastermind behind the great band Filter.
sambob
11-01-2003, 08:21 AM
I suppose NIN is ok. But as far as industrial music goes..its kind of weak.
Hootayah
11-01-2003, 10:33 AM
Who the hell is Skinny Puppy?
Raskolnikov
11-01-2003, 11:37 AM
Skinny Puppy is more or less responsible for starting Industrial. Almost everybody in the genre steals their stuff, but almost nobody knows who they are.
sambob
11-01-2003, 01:54 PM
Cabaret Voltaire, Throbbing Gristle, SPK..those are the guys that started industrial. Hell, the cabs started in like 1978 i think.

Ministry, Skinny Puppy, etc didn't really get popular till around 1986.

The NIN comes along, and is really only popular after Ministry's success on MTV. If it hadn't been for so much publicity on NIN, they would have never been popular at all I don't think, because in the world of industrial music..they're just not all that good.

Thats just my take on it though.
Raskolnikov
11-01-2003, 02:23 PM
I stand slightly corrected.
Slow Diver
11-01-2003, 05:24 PM
And what do you guys say about The Fragile. Is it also copied from Skinny Puppy and Ministry? I mean I don't know a lot of Ministry and nothing about Skinny Puppy so I want to hear your opinions. Because for me The Fragile is really a great album and I don't have anything to compare it with.
sambob
11-01-2003, 08:46 PM
Trent samples a lot of different people, I wouldn't really worry about it. It happens a lot in any time of electronic music.
Digit
11-01-2003, 09:53 PM
Not as much now though compared to the 90's though I don't think. Didn't they tighten up the © infringement laws for © infingement or something?
sambob
11-02-2003, 11:46 AM
They've started enforcing them more. But its really not an issue for most people. If you look at say, hip hop..in the 80s and early 90s, it was all about sampling old funk and R&B records. Now, they still do it..but not as much. Now people are more interested in sampling earlier hip hop artists (which sampled people before them).

People just don't really care all that much.
Raskolnikov
11-02-2003, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by sambob
[B]They've started enforcing them more. But its really not an issue for most people. If you look at say, hip hop..in the 80s and early 90s, it was all about sampling old funk and R&B records. Now, they still do it..but not as much. Now people are more interested in sampling earlier hip hop artists (which sampled people before them).
Yeah, but the old school rap guys usually gave the artist(s) the sampled credit and paid royalties. Remember how Vanilla Ice got in trouble for not doing that?