My web promo released

[s@mi]

Hello!
I just released a promo cd on the web. It has now 3 instrumental songs.
The songs were re-mixed and mastered in a studio from my original home-recorded demos.
Go check it out and tell me what you think.

Downloads avaivable from my webpage (mp3's 192kbps): http://www.samianttila.tk
(i also have the covers of the cd there)

or alternate download from mp3.com (mp3's 128kbps)

http://uk.artists.mp3s.com/artists/520/sami_anttila.html

Some more music and guitar tricks at my homepage: http://www.samianttila.tk

,Sami

[Splinter]

Hey Dude, you must learn to shred before you start recording: your licks come out "How do I learn to play rock-riffs part one''

try listening to Marty Friedman or something

Good luck mate,

Splinter

[MikeP.]

let's hear something from you Splinter!!!!!!!

That was totally uncalled for.

[s@mi]

hmm...incase you didn't notice i wasn't going after the shredding ;)
It's not all in instrumental playing IMO...but of course we all have an opinion.

I'll let you know when i put out "another shred clone that 10 000 guitarist have played before" :)

[MikeP.]

Hey Dude, you must learn to shred before you start recording

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(The question marks above says it all for me

[hairbndrckr]

First off I would like to say that some of the greatest guitarists in the world can get their point across just fine musically without having to burn off 65 notes per second lines. They can do it in 2 or 3....

Now having said that. I think the first 2 on ukmp3.com that I heard had real potential... Musically, they were tight, mixed very well, and kept my attention to a point. You're a Satriani fan aren't ya? I could hear some of him in the second song....
The only thing I didn't like about it is that it kind of reminded me of someone talking to a schitzophrenic... You were going and going like the energizer bunny, then BAM! Mister Rogers hit the neighborhood...

You gotta start with a theme and stick with it. Each song to me sounded like you had at least 3....

Good job though... Now I wanna hear the idiot who slammed you for not shredding. His problem though is that the only thing he can shred is cheese...

Rock on

[Dr_simon]

Listened to Collapse .....top notch mate !!!!!

I try not to say this about other guitarist (egos and all that) but it was very f*c*ing cool !

[s@mi]

Originally posted by hairbndrckr
You gotta start with a theme and stick with it. Each song to me sounded like you had at least 3....


Well yeah. Those songs turned out quite progressive.
There are those certain themes, but at the same time i felt like adding this section and the this and this. And finally ended up with song that has no repeated melodies whatsoever.

It depends on the song. Sometimes i have the verses chorus parts there. I just try not to repeat myself in every song (which is quite hard btw). I counted that I have like over 60 home recorded songs now. Close to 3 and ½ hours of stuff.
So there are lot of songs from various categories. They all have they weaknesses of course, because they are just home recorded "let see how it turns out" songs.

[Splinter]

So splinter
can you actually be nice , or ill have to delete every post of yours out there?


[Edited by Zeppelin on 06-16-2003 at 03:53 PM]

[noticingthemistake]

Splinter, no offense to you man but you need to chill out. Your opinion is welcome, but you are way out of line. If your looking for somewhere to prove how you are such a virtuoso, try http://www.guitarwar.com. You can try to prove it there.

Sami, I totally digged what you are doing. I can tell it is your own style, and that's more important in my book than being another shredder who sounds like malmsteen. :)

[Pantallica1]

I agree with you noticingthemistake. I've met many guitar players that spent their whole time trying to learn how to shred as fast as possible. But that doesn't make an ounce of difference if you can't write music. That track gave me a headache, but the bass player was pretty damn good.

[s@mi]

Originally posted by Splinter
So MikeP,

Of course you can hear somehing from me. These days I don't play (let alone record) so much but here is a worked out improvisation I recorded in 1999 with my friend (bassplayer) Richard Kikker:

Splinter 1999 http://members.lycos.nl/shakeel2001/splinter1999.mp3

(In 1999 I recorded this using this old Tascam "234" 4-track rec. and mastered it on tape........not a wise decision, for there is a lot of schrrrrrrschrrrssssssssshshhhhhshshshshshshhs. the guitarsound is Ibanez RG with Mesa Triaxis 2.01, drums = yamaha studio RY). From 3:00 I get loose!

Are you a wannabee Mike? Or, can we hear something from you, I mean do you only talk about playing and ask others for proof?


So s@mi,

"Another shred clone that 10 000 guitarist have played before" .......man you sound like some geek who is listening to dudes who claim Malmsteen ain't melodic,,,,,,,,,,,,,, what I ment to say was, you only play simpel tapping licks that have been done some many times before BUT you dare talking about debut whahahahahahaha! It don't sound like you master your licks......it sounds like reading notes. Listen to Malmsteens "Now Your Ships Are Burnt" and analyse the difference between Mastering six strings picking and your soft/gay stroking.

Before talking about debut you should have to offer something new since your melodies ain't catchy. You don't even know what shred is.


So hairbndrckr,

Can you shred cheese? Have you got some recordings or only replies?

Away,

Splinter
Oh yeah...and you sound very personal aye!?
Jesus...you sound like all the other million guitar players in the world who want to play like yngwie... :D
My licks might be crappy but at least they sound...umm...more personal :D
And f%&k wheres the song stucture. If i want to listen to headless shredding ill listen some Francecsco Fareri (http://www.francescofareri.com/) or Michael Angelo (www.angelo.com) and those overepeated riffs of mister malmsteen. He should had quit after the few first albums. Now hes just repeating himself over and over and over again.
And btw..if i want to sound like the 80s rock band..ill call you for some tips :D
...the bass player seemed to have more clues on what was going on than you.
And...grow up wont you...

[Kirk_Aimar]

Hey Sam...your songs rocks! keep it up dude! :)

[s@mi]

oh yeah...btw...sorry bout flaming...
forgot that arguing over the net is stupid.
"Even if you win you are still a retard"...
better keep that in mind... ;)

[Adrian Johnson]

great start amigo! sounds good so far - and as some others have said, more notes don't always convey the emotion better than a few well-placed ones :)

[MikeP.]

Heh s@mi Your song rocks!!!!!!!!!!
That's totally the style of music that I play and am in to. It gave me Goose pimples. IT ROCKED! I would love to collaborate on a song with you. I too also use boogie:
Triaxis
BBE Sonic Maximizer
Intellifex
Compressor
stereo 15 eq
2:Ninety
2 Boogie rectifier (Bottom cabs with armor plating on sides)
Digital ground control pedalboard
lot's of other misc. related music gear

EMG's in all of my guitars

Gear: (pictures are 6 years old)
http://www.shred.1colony.com/images/mike.jpg

http://www.shred.1colony.com/images/mike2.jpg

[s@mi]

Originally posted by MikeP.
I would love to collaborate on a song with you. I too also use boogie:
Triaxis
BBE Sonic Maximizer
Intellifex
Compressor
stereo 15 eq
2:Ninety
2 Boogie rectifier (Bottom cabs with armor plating on sides)
Digital ground control pedalboard
lot's of other misc. related music gear

EMG's in all of my guitars

Gear: (pictures are 6 years old)
http://www.shred.1colony.com/images/mike.jpg

http://www.shred.1colony.com/images/mike2.jpg




Sure...e-mail me or catch me on icq. You can find the addresses from my webpage -> info section. I just dont feel like putting them in this thread k..?
btw...awesome equipment you seem to have. I just have stuff that can be called as "toys" ;)

[kingdavid]

Zeppelin,you shouldn't have bothered to delete that splinter guy's post,so we can quote him for real.
Now splinter,from another post that quotes you(before your post was deleted),you say that s@mi only plays some simple picking stuff or something to that effect.Now,what is unmusical,uncreative,anything,about simple picking stuff?Give a valid reason why,for instance,Yngwie Malmsteen(sp?)is better than say,Led Zeppelin(the real one(s),not the moderator on this forum)just coz he plays faaster than him/them.I've onlt heard stairway to heaven,so I don't even know if Led Zeppelin is/was a band or just a guy.
About S@mi's debut,or "debut",as you(splinter)would call it,the word debut,if my English is upto scratch(it's my third language,after my mother tongue and Swahili),means doing something for the first time,or something to that effect.Meaning web debut means doing something on the web for the first time.S@mi didn't say anything about turning the music world upside down,which sounds like what you require someone to be doing to gain your permission to use the word debut in the title of their thread.Your comments simply illustrate the not very clever(I'm being nice,and trying to avoid using strong words such as stupid/ignorant and so on)attitude that if you can't shread,then you can't play.You guys ever heard Chet atkins shred?Or Pat Metheny?Or Tarrega?Now,splinter,these folks suck,right?
Another thing,if S@mi(I'm looking to get signed on as his lawyer)is playing simple picking stuff that's been done over and over and thus can't qualify as debut,what's so new about shredding then?Or plying like those dudes you suggest he listens to?What's so new about playing like someone else?I'll tell you;it's absolutely nothing,because,well,you're playing like someone else.
If you like shred,fine.But don't tell people who don't like,or who don't at a given instance,that they don't know how to play.
And here is where I stop being nice.
If you're as good as you would have us believe,how come you're posting stuff you did in 99?I'd have expected you post something you did last week or something like that.If you're this guitar god.It's been 4 years since 99.
Oh,and I am argumentative.Very.
Try me.

[MikeP.]

..oops..I think I made a booboo. Was that song Splineter's or S@mi's

Splinter 1999 http://members.lycos.nl/shakeel2001/splinter1999.mp3

This is the song I liked

[iamthe_eggman]

LOL....

Hey, isn't Shakeel the one that always collaborates with Bosch on those shred mp3s posted in the Open Discussion area?

I wonder if Shakeel and Sami already know each other and this is a feud spilling over from real life into the internet...

hmmm... i smell a conspiracy!

[noticingthemistake]

Originally posted by MikeP.
..oops..I think I made a booboo. Was that song Splineter's or S@mi's

This is the song I liked

LOL...I kinda liked them both cause I'm pretty open minded when it comes to music. I liked the bass part and the groove guitar part (1:48) on splinters song, that was pretty cool. But then again, like many others he only played it for I think 8 measures then a real fast run and stop. EHHH. :rolleyes: And that was the catchiest part of the song. The guitar soloing was good, but I don't believe it was completely improv'd on one take, that was definitely planned out.

I liked s@mi's song cause to me that was more artistic, and at least to me that's better than a guitar showcase song. Sami's song(s) was alittle more truthful in a way that it wasn't pushed to be something it wasn't meant to be. In my opinion some of the parts could be improved on, but there was still a melody or harmony that was able to catch my ear.
Bottom line is it was a cool song, and if he would of shredded like Splinter insists on, it would have ruined the song.

[MikeP.]

I have to toally agree that it was not an improv.....maybe started out that way...then later composed DEfinately....but then again...I have been known to be wrong a time or two (hehehehe)

[noticingthemistake]

Originally posted by MikeP.
I have to toally agree that it was not an improv.....maybe started out that way...then later composed DEfinately....but then again...I have been known to be wrong a time or two (hehehehe)

Yeah me too. I think you can usually tell. I don't want speculate on what he did. But when I usually do a solo or pretty much anything, I just play a dummy track and just jam out. Then go back figure out what I did, doctor it up a bit (only where needed cause you don't want the ruin idea of improv), then re-record it. So the idea is basically improv.

[MikeP.]

That's pretty much what I do as well. Usually over a drum machine....record a simple rythm, lay down some bass, loop it, then solo over it to my hearts content.

I'll also dwnload different backing tracks in different styles...forcing me to play a different way and style. It will definately improve your soloing style whne you are forced out of your confort zone and rehashing your bag of tricks...lol

[noticingthemistake]

Me too man, but I usually create my own using midi. Another fun thing to do and is also great practice for your improv skills. Popping in a cd, play a track and put your own thing to it. Just make sure your in the right key, and your putting something over it that goes with it good. I do this all the time just for fun. :) Try playing along with a song you've never heard before. Great practice for when to get together with friends and just jam. I always get into situations like that. :)