View Full Version : Rage No More
10-19-2000, 05:46 AM
rage against the machine has broken up. i think this sucks. what do you think?
10-19-2000, 10:18 AM
Wow, where did you hear that?
I'm shocked, cause i dont believe it! hehe
10-19-2000, 02:10 PM
They did? I thought the bass player just quit. Man.....
10-19-2000, 02:27 PM
What?? That totally sucks! They're the only rap/metal band that I actually like. Why are they doing it?
10-19-2000, 03:28 PM
According to what I read today, Zack De La Rocha quit the band because he feels the decision making process has completely faileed. etc etc....;undermind our artistic and political ideal.
He's working on a single album but don't take my word for it cause I've never even heard of em before.
10-19-2000, 03:48 PM
Yup they're breaking up. Does'nt affect me, but my brother is bumbed out. Well, c-yah all later!
10-19-2000, 04:54 PM
They say Zack has a solo project lined up.
[This message has been edited by jake sommers (edited 10-19-2000).]
10-19-2000, 07:10 PM
I am totally bummed out. I just got into them more then I had before a couple weeks ago. I couple months ago I hated them but then I kind of got into it more and I think thier stuff kicks a$$.
10-19-2000, 11:20 PM
This reeks,one of the only rap/metal i could stand to listen to.
Life is a banquet so eat me.
10-20-2000, 12:08 AM
they totally sucks, their the pioneers of rap-metal, and the only ones that sound good. I hope that its just a publicity stunt but i doubt it.
11-09-2000, 10:17 AM
Well I was never a big fan of Rage, but I think Tom Morello(I think thats how you spell it) is an awesome guitarist, and I hope to a strong solo effort come from the guy
11-10-2000, 10:25 PM
did you hear? It appears that they already had a whole album recorded so they are going to realease it. Its called "Rennagades of Funk" i think thats how you spell it. I heard one of the songs by the same title and it was great. Tom was getting some weird sound i wonder how he did it....
11-29-2000, 10:48 AM
I'm actually quite pleased. I don't mean for this to be a flame or try to start a fight or anything, but Rage was one of the most hypocritical bands out there IMO. I equated them with BSB and Blink; the Backstreet Boys pretend to be "emotional," Blink pretends to be "Punk," Rage pretends to be "Revolutionary."
I mean come on, "there must not be a new Vietnam in Mexico." Jeesus. Do these guys know anything about the history of modern warfare? Yeah we're supporting Mexico's government (not saying this is a good thing)... we're also supporting the Zapatistas and Tupac. And for it to be like Nam we'd have to have half a million teenage kids go down there and have the Zapatistas blow away one out of five of them. Then we'd have to stop supporting the rebels.
The government is in dire need of reform, I won't argue that. But what good is it to be such hypocrites, sitting there at Sony records, churning out CD's that sound the same and have the same crap themes over & over. It's not even good for angry music; look at those angry Swedes from Refused, they're ten times louder, way more insightful, and they are a lot more willing to break from politics for a short time and deliver something that's different.
Once you've heard one Rage song you've heard them all. "Free Mumia, kill some pigs, throw some molotovs, blah, blah, blah." It was getting old. I thank God it's over.
Yes this is an unpopular, minority opinion, but isn't that what they're about?
What I will give them is that they do have mass appeal to a nation that, like them, doesn't like to get its facts straight, it just likes to be led, told what to think, etc. and maybe has affected some of those to break from that norm, if they could take what they were pushing at more than face value and read up on revolution, etc.
Anyway, as long as you're into revolutionary/antiestablishment music, go and Napster some Refused songs, put on some headphones and rock.
01-03-2001, 11:59 PM
first off ponyone your opinion sux!
ok now that i got that out, lets move on....
rage is THE most unique band ive ever heard
NONE of there songs are the same in my opinion there all
just zach's thaughts of the government turned into a song
and along with tom's guitar playin, it justs make the band... if them two stick together the band will live, tim and brad aint really nothing new (no offence) but zach's voice and tom's guitar playing stick together like white on rice... people say thier favorite singer is "blah blah blah"
but i havent heard anyone say that theirs is zach nore is anyones favorite guitarist is tom.. well heres one...me
eveyone plays guitar kinda the same weather its fast, slow, ect., exctept tom he plays his own thing... thats the best kinda playin, why play what everyone else does? make up your own guitar noises (who said its gotta be a note or chord?) thats my 2 cents..oops i lost one.. my 1 cent..later
01-04-2001, 12:30 AM
First off Robbie,
When the hell did I say that everyone has to make their guitars sound identical??? I listen to Mister Bungle, for God's sake! And then I also listen to Tool, Failure, and a plethora of other bands that either sound like nothing else or started their sound.
I play a 12-string hollowbody half the time, and I use it for hardcore, when was the alst time you heard someone do that? Plus the thing is such a pain in the ass to tune, I usually just haphazardly turn the pegs a bit until I get something that sounds kinda like what I'm looking for and leave it. Add some distortion and a wah, maybe a phaser pedal and a slide, and you've got something that's pretty original. I'm sure someone's done it before, but I also don't really care about chords so long as it comes together.
In my first post I said "What I will give them is that they do have mass appeal to a nation that, like them, doesn't like to get its facts straight, it just likes to be led, told what to think, etc. and maybe has affected some of those to break from that norm, if they could take what they were pushing at more than face value and read up on revolution, etc. " You my poor boy have been suckered into that group, have had the life sucked out of you. I don't know, maybe you have looked into those revolutions more, and if so good for you, my hat tips to you. But that also should have made you REJECT what made Rage come to you in the first place. Capitalism.
If I put an album into my CD player, it must come together in some way. If the CD has vocals on it which 99% of the time it does, the vocals have to match, and I also find it a bonus if the lyrics match. If you listen to something like "All Along The Watchtower" by Jimi Hendrix, you can get the same effect with or without vocals, he can let the guitar talk for him. That's good. There are some songs where the vocals and music are so harmonic, so intertwined, that if you removed any part of the song it'd fall apart. With Rage Against the Machine, I get nothing. You're a Rage fan, maybe you can tell me the latest buzz on where Zach's gonads went, did he lose them in Compton, or did an American soldier shoot them off in Mexico? Did he sacrifice them as protest to Mumia's "unjust" jailing? Because his voice is so high and screechy, all I can think of when I hear them on the radio for ten seconds before I shut it off and wait for it to end is that I'm listening to a spoiled 12-year old shrieking his head off as he tears up his room because his parent's didn't get him a shirt with an anarchy symbol on it for back to school.
And having a guitar stick to someone's vocals isn't necessarily a good thing. Sometimes, it's downright counter-harmonic, sometimes it's better to have the guitar played in chords while the lead singer sings (good example: swallow pride, download REM's "Leave" or Failure's "Stuck On You" and put on some headphones). There are better guitarists, drummers, bassists, and singers out there who play hard music, it's not like the world's over from Rage breaking up.
01-04-2001, 11:36 AM
Strong, logical opinions there Pony... I'm still sad to see 'em go though.
Nobody says you have to find deep meaning in their songs (maybe some consider them a "profound" band, not me, I just thought it was fun and liked their music). You have to admit, some of their songs get your heartpumping. Though, I think the videos add a lot to them, the imagery in the background of nukes going off and police beating protestors and stuff, I'm not sure I would enjoy them if I heard it on the radio.
I'm not sure if I can agree with you when you say that they pretend to be revolutionary. One, Tom Morrello graduated from Harvard majoring in political science, I dont' know about zack though. Two, what's the difference between "pretending to be revolutionary" and "being revolutionary"? If they are pretending, they've convinced me (and millions of other kids), so isn't that what's important? That, pretending or not, they've played at least a tiny role in inspiring government-waryness in kids? Sure I'd rather listen to Bob Dylan any day of the week, but still...
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