What category do you fall in?

[magicninja]

How many people here are truly big headed and like to think they are the best? How many want to be the best and try without being a total jerk about it? How many people here can jam with somebody who is better them and admit it to them and try to learn something. I find a lot of people claiming this and saying that. I posted almost all of one of my songs because I wanted to know what people thought not because I wanted to show off. So what is your playing mentality do you want to learn all you can or do you just want to say your the best no arguements and thats final? I hope to get a good thread going on this subject because its such a hot topic. I know what we all write about other people but what do you think of yourself?

[Led Zeppelin]

I suck. I cant even play the saxaphone.

[Lordathestrings]

I mostly a rhthym player. I do melodic leads. On a good day, I'm almost as fast as, say, uh... David Gilmour! :cool:

[PonyOne]

On a good day... I'm really fast. On a bad day, I'm pretty fast. I never really expended effort on learning chords that much, aside from the really basic chord shapes; and ask me to play a G and I'll shrug at you. I can play a tune and I can memorize it, do it melodically and make it sound good, and hit the right strings 98% of the time... I'm not satisfied with it though. I want to be as good as I can be, and I won't ever stop progressing.

And I can play alto, baritone, soprano and tenor sax, all well, and the alto probably better than guitar, though I favor guitar a lot more. I also play melodica, bass & synths.

[Edited by PonyOne on 05-12-2002 at 09:49 PM]

[kimbob]

Originally posted by magicninja
....So what is your playing mentality do you want to learn all you can or do you just want to say your the best no arguements and thats final? I hope to get a good thread going on this subject because its such a hot topic. I know what we all write about other people but what do you think of yourself?
I don't know of anybody that thinks they are the best guitar player around. If they do they are full of sczhyt:eek:. I've heard people on this site brag about how many bpm they can play, or who they can play like, or that they are better than so and so. None of that impresses me. Saying that you're better than someone is only a matter of opinion anyway.. Your opinion. Better how? Faster, smoother ,more melodic, do you know more scales etc. Someone else would dissagree with you. I know a guitar player that can do Stevie Ray, Yngwie and Steve Vai solos note for note, but he is one of the worlds biggest egotist' and all around duppa judda's(polish for a__hole):eek:. This guy is destined to play his extrordinary solo's, solo, because nobody can stand him or will get on the same stage with him because he's a dink.The point I'm trying to make is, nobody cares how good you think you are. Your attitude is very important if you want to work in a band. Your personality will take you just about as far as your talent will.
As far as, do I want to learn as much as I can, the answer is yes. You can never know too much. If you think you know it all, your only cheating yourself. How do I rate myself? I'm good enough to earn a living at it, and I've never had any problems finding a working band to gig with. But I've got one helluva pesonality and a great sense of humor;).
I've got more I'd like to add on this topic, but I'll let someone else talk for a while. Remember, speed is cool, but there's no substitute for experience. So get out there and break some strings on stage.:cool:

[Pantallica1]

I am definitely not the best guitar player, and I really dislike even talking to people who think they're the best because they're not.

You must always remember, no matter how good you are, someone is always better.

Plus, playing guitar is a style, like your hair, or the way you dress. Just because you part your hair on the right and I part mine on the left, doesn't make you any better than me or vice versa. Same way with guitar, everyone has a different style.

I love playing with people who are better than me, but who also have an open minded attitude. My one buddy is a great guitarist, in my opinion, I mean watching someone play Van Halen's Eruption, note for note, is an amazing site to see, but he's not a dick about it, we'll sit down and he'll just be like, ok do this and this and you'll get faster or smoother. And we can play together, he helps a lot.

And that's all I have to say about that.

[lalimacefolle]

I'm not the best, only people who listen to me think that ... :)

[pstring]

I used to think playing guitar was a destination, but I found out it's a journey, and it's been a lot more enjoyable since I came to that realization. As far as me being the best, I could care less, I'm not in a competition, as far as dealing with other people who think they are the greatest and get obnoxious about it, well they don't bother me since I found out that when they aren't looking, I can do stuff to their amp that will take them months to figure out............

[James8831]

played with all sort of people from 16 to 50 something..and unofficially taught a couple and it always surprises me that even someone who can't play a simple boogie riff will ,usually,come up with something ..a rhythm,fill or lick for example..and i'll think yeah.nice and pinch it..[sorry former "students" ;)

I usually ended up playing with less technically competent guys so i stuck to rhythm,to give a solid base for improvs etc,and i always like great rhythm players.Always listen with your heart and ears and try to be [humble and] restrained. I can vary so wildly from day to day...when not playing regularly with others..that i find it hard to slag off someone's playing or to give a criticism,in any way......what do you go for,if you made the audience cry,laugh or be sick from your deafing sonic terrorism do you worry that your playing is not as intended...? I know i am not the worst and will never be the best, but, God forgive you if you tell someone they stink..cause the next day it might be you..if they press you, you can always inform them nicely how to get...more advanced.

BTW,One of the better players on the local scene [my former teacher] is so shy he will play with his back to the audience
..perhaps that's a little too humble..but, it's a very difficult area.

My basic take is..what do you get if you have four guys with instruments going their own way..cacophany..and 4 guys playing together,giving and taking...music.

If you think you're so much better you'll never stay in a band,because you'll be trying to outdo everyone.

[PonyOne]

in my band we literally never talk about who's better than who, because it's all relative, and when you're dealing with the guys that do the other portion of your song onstage you don't want them to feel inadequate to you or pissed off at you.

Besides, what's the point in arguing over whether I'm a better guitarist than he is a bassist?

There are people I could out-saxophone under the table; a lot of them. And there are a lot of people who could do the same to me. Same with guitar. But none of that matters, music is not a competition, it's an art.

[aiwass]

The 1st commandment for guitarists: If thou admittest to being good, regardless of how good thou art, thou art in reality ****e.

Steve Vai and Ron Thal are both amazing shredders. When approached with this, they both respond with: "I can't play the blues". That's the spirit!

[lalimacefolle]

Originally posted by aiwass
Steve Vai and Ron Thal are both amazing shredders. When approached with this, they both respond with: "I can't play the blues". That's the spirit!

That's why I'm the best, I can't play the blues better than them...

[aiwass]

And that dude in Papa Roach is the best because he can't play the guitar better than everyone else.

[lalimacefolle]

I haven't listened to any Papa Roach, but that doesn't make me envious!!!

[aiwass]

Ok, that joke wasn't even funny. I apologize. Papa Roach's guitarist is the epitome of a sloppy, sh*tty nu metal guitarist. Has anyone seen an American band called And you will know us by the trail of dead? I saw them live on Satturday, and roughly 4 of the bands in my school are better than them.

[Slasher]

Just to bring two threads together, arent I clever. Papa Roach's guitarist makes Mark Tremonti look like Jimi. Only on a metatphorical level of course.

[Blaksmith]

Good question? Does ego have something to do with it? You bet, ego has everything to do with it.

The guys that are truly THE be all and end all play by themselves. No other band members needed/wanted. They don't sing or need to. They just play great big halls and sell out everynight!

It ain't about being great. It really isn't about ego either. The truly great ones have a close knit group of people around them, usually friends and play for and off of each other, therefore all members in the band could be considered great by default. That is when the magic happens and it turns into a show. Nobody in the band says to anyone else "Your playing SUCKED" and means it, the members play and have fun.

Greatness is in the mind of the audience. If you have a bunch of guitar players having a contest to see who is the best they are probably laughing at the joke of it all. They know the truth, there is more to the show than an axe player.

No matter what style you like to play or whom you emulate matters. What does matter is being able to learn and build on what you have with other people that want to do the same. If you want to stand alone, you probably will.

[Slasher]

I still have a lot to learn about the guitar and always will continue learning. That makes me sound ****, I'm not that bad honest. So I love being around musicians that are better than me. But on the other hand I also get **** scared, coz I'm real shy, about playin in front of people that are better than me. I always get paranoid of ****in up n just being crap to their standards, so I always make sure I like the people I play with before I jump in. I don't mind taking critisism, as long as it's from someone who can tell me what I'm doing wrong n how I might be able to improve. I actually learn stuff from teaching people from scratch coz then I'll come across something that I didn't notice when I was a beginner.

[Blaksmith]

Slasher, at least you have the confidence to play with others. I do not play well at all and MUST work at it to just keep the chord changes.

Hell, I don't even practice if my wife is home.

:D

[aiwass]

I've always had enough confidence, due to the fact that in every school I've been to, and of all the people i associate with, i have always been the best guitarist. Now, I'm not saying that i actually suck, but when everyone keeps telling you you're great and you aren't realy as good as you want to be or you think you should be, you end up pretty frustrated. The advantage is that you're not afraid to perform. My biggest gig so far was probably around 400-500 people, but I also played alone outdoors once, in the middle of one of the biggest town squares in Norway. That was probably a couple of thousand people over the duration of maybe three hours.

[educatedfilm]

well, you remember being 5 years old and playing plastcine/ play dough? making snakes? spheres? and just general blobs?
Well I'm kinda doing the same with guitar... but to be honest, guitar for me is just a grown ups toy... If dont have fun, I put it down, and do something else, this is why i've learned very few songs, never practice scales.. but i'm really enjoying it...
It would be a lie to say i never sat down and tried to learn to tap, or messed around with scales.. but i did it for fun, not a practical lesson... I still learnt stuff in the end..

(and you'll know us by the trail of dead: lol, those guys aren't bad, "mistakes and regrets" is a great song, it's not got mental solos or anything so it bores guitarists, and it's art rock wich really goes over heads... School bands have no concepts and ideas behind them, they just try to strum power chords, that's a big generalisation... I dont know what a.y.w..u.b.t.d are like live, but their records fairly good, and more to offer than most mainstream stuff... I dont know, it's all taste in the end, some poeple like shallow heavy metal with fast solos that pierce your ear drums, some poeple like sensitive 3 chord rock, what does it matter...)

[Slasher]

I am a manic depressive, so I do find it frustrating not being as good as I want to be, or should be. But my friends are always telling me that I'm great, n that helps a lot. But due to a stupid ****in chemical inbalance, it holds me back a lot when it comes to the confidence side. Some days I think I'm so bad that I'll stare at my guitars n just wanna throw them outta the window, so on those days I make sure I'm not around them. But on other days I will sit n do some riffs off the top o my head n do a **** hot solo n think **** I'm good. Thats very annoying, I'd like to find a nice level where I can think that I'm good(on the days that my confidence isnt up), but still good on the good days. So I would say playing around people does help my confidence, but only if I know the person.

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by kimbob
I don't know of anybody that thinks they are the best guitar player around.

I really do know a guy like that, and today his guitar teacher told me he sucks beans.

PS his teacher is an even bigger arrogant loser

[mc9mm]

Well you cant say there is always someone better.
There is only a limited number of guitarists
on this planet, and therefore, someone has to
be the best.
And what do you know, then we slide in to the question
"Can you measure how good someone is?"
Well theoretically, yes indeed you can.
So when someone comes up to you and says that he's
the best, hear him out first because he might be right!

[lalimacefolle]

Originally posted by mc9mm
So when someone comes up to you and says that he's
the best, hear him out first because he might be right!


Here's a quote to one of the best bass player ever, Jaco PASTORIUS. Jaco was manic depressive, and had an ego as big as Texas. So in his good days, he go around telling everyone 'I'm the best electric bass player on earth'. Since he went to guys like Ron CARTER to say that, you must understand people were kind of pissed off at him when he did that kind of stuff...
Well, Jaco said once 'it ain't bragging if you can't back it up'. I sometimes, as a joke, tell people that are introduced to me 'I'm Hervé, best guitarist on earth' some understand it's humor, while others think I'm just an arrogant self sufficient brat. Well, once they hear me play, they usually shut up...(I'm far from being the best, don't go thinking I believe it myself)
I believe though that some of the best musicians around are the soft spoken, discret type. They have worked on their instrument so much that they don't have lots of social skills. So they won't tell they are the best themselves.

[pstring]

Sometimes, the claim of " I'm the best " is just self promotion, not in an arrogant sense but in a business sense, alot of the soft spoken guys don't get much press reguardless of talent, Alan Holdsworth, Eric Johnson, somebody has to "Blow your Horn", somebody has to tell the world about you, if you have talent, then others will pick up on it and start spreading the word for you, even then you have to have a "Gig", niche, market, band , someplace to apply your talent, so it can get the "stage" you are looking for. Mc9mm, says you could theoretically determine who is best, I disagree, Who makes up the test? Even if I hear someone and say he's the best, thats still just my opinion, and nothing more, no matter how you slice it, "The Best" is only subjective to opinion.........

[lalimacefolle]

I know, do YOU think I'm the best pstring? :D (I'll start one at a time...)

[James8831]

Originally posted by Slasher
I am a manic depressive, so I do find it frustrating not being as good as I want to be, or should be. But my friends are always telling me that I'm great, n that helps a lot. But due to a stupid ****in chemical inbalance


Ok, i don't like to admit this but..i had a similar imballance when i was younger and it can improve quite a lot with treatment and when you are sure of what you want to do in life,more, it's a VERY serious condition and i hope that you are getting treatment for it....

Whatever you think of his playing Hendrix had "Manic Depression" hence the song and look at the amount of talent he had..

I hope you can find ways to build your confidence up. I know this reply is innadequate in the scale of the condition, but, I hope you can find ways to tame it.

[kingdavid]

I always have avery accurate idea of exactly where I am in just about everything,and I've been like this from waay back.Reciting poetry,playing recorder,acting in plays in school and in church,virtually everywhere that involved doing something that is watched by others.Even today.Like in college,I failed my third year exams and had to repeat the year.It didn't surprise me.I knew it was gonna happen.And it's not like I intentionally gave wrong answers or anything,but I knew what to expect.
And in guitar,I know exactly where I'm at.And I have a fairly good idea of where I want to get,coz I think about songs(in my head)that I can't play coz I'm not yet that good,but I hear them in my head.
Ther are very few people who are really good that mouth off about it.Even those that really think they're good keep it to themselves.It takes some bit of wisdom to know what to say and what not to say.Plus the really good people know this isn't WWF wrestling.
I met another jerk in a music store the other day.I wasn't even talking to him.I was talking to another guy who we wanted to see.This other guy is a teacher and he's really good,improvising and all.He asks me what I can play.I tell him not a lot.I'd just come from learning a song I like(Six Pence None The Richer's "Kiss Me").So I play that.He's heard it before but can't quite place it.This guy is all over me,telling me to "run",over the fret board.I tell him I can't.Then he goes on about how you're wack if you can't solo.And I'm wondering,what is his obsession with soloing?I mean,in the song I'm playing,there's hardly a solo in there!Then he takes the guitar.And I ask if he's in a band or what."Noooo,I just play at him.But,aaaahhh,I know these things."Don't wait for me to tell you what he plays;crap,for all his fascination with soloing.Then coz we were standing and the guitar is strapless,he starts saying,ooohhh,I'm uncomfortable,blah,blah,blah,but there was a lot of amps and stuff you could lean on and do something decent.
The guy was old enough to be my dad,so I didn't tell him to go **** himself.I probably wouldn't even if he were my agemate,but the idea did cross my mind.
The real artists know that this artform is too complex to simply talk about greatness in a general way.Suckers don't.
Blacksmith talks about those guys who play alone in great halls that sell out every night.I have a feeling these guys are classical guitarists.On what basis would you compare these guys with,say,Vai or hendrix or Yngwie or whoever?
Like I said,it's not that straight forward.
You can be taller than me,but that doesn't make you a better basketball player,even though height is an advantage in basketball.
I'll stop coz I could go on forever.

[Willdridge]

Originally posted by Pantallica1

You must always remember, no matter how good you are, someone is always better.



Exactly!

I know I'm not the greatest/fastest/most emotional/etc. player in the world. I'll admit it's my goal, but it's something I'm very unlikely to be able to achieve. Ultimately, I want to be able to play whatever I want as well as I can. At the moment, I think I can hold my own against most advanced guitarist, but I'm nothing special.
I think there's always too much emphasis on trying to be better than everyone else though. I treat better guitarists as an oppurtunity to learn something new and expand my playing. It also gives you that inspiration (the firm kick up the backside) to raise your standard and improve yourself...
Just my two pennies worth...

[mc9mm]

Originally posted by lalimacefolle

I believe though that some of the best musicians around are the soft spoken, discret type. They have worked on their instrument so much that they don't have lots of social skills. [/B]

That I do not believe.
I think they are more like the guys with 300+ IQ.
They never brag about their intelligence,
and I understand why;
When you reach a certain point, there's no need to brag.
If you know you're good, why cant you just stop
talking about it and do something with your skill instead?
Personally, I know Im not the best guitarist but
I see myself as pretty good.
So ok I have this gift, why brag with it?
Will I get anything out of it? No.
Will anyone else? No.
So why not do something with it instead of showing off?
The 300+ IQ guys often becomes scientists, doctors,
musicians, surgeons etc etc etc.
And I think thats one of the things that shows
they are really smart.
They use their gift trying to accomplish something.
They're using their gift so that other people can
do something with it aswell.
If youre blessed with something I think
you should use it to help other people in some way.
In this case it might be to entertain people with
your music or to teach other guitarists.
Why keep it to yourself?
No one will benefit from it.
Not even yourself.

[Edited by mc9mm on 05-14-2002 at 06:14 AM]

[lalimacefolle]

well, that's where you are wrong. Scientists/doctors/etc... aren't people who are smart and have a 300 IQ... It is known in psychology and psychatry that most people with a very high IQ are socially underskilled people. Gifted students (with a IQ over 120)usually are the kind that disrupt the classroom and flunk their classes. Why is that? Well, guess someone would tell you 'what's the difference between those two pitches (avery low E and a piercing high E)' and he played it for you 564 times, I guess after a while you would knock the guy off, or just answer whatever, to ENNNNNND the test, Faaaaast!!!
Well, that's what happens with geniuses. They understand things so fast that they get bored in their classes.

And guess what, some artists are just so bored with promoting, marketing, making marketable music that their music doesn't make it to our ears. One of the best example is Allan HOLDSWORTH, the guy sells his guitars so he can make another record, and HE BLOWS EVERYONE AWAY!! Be it technically, compositionnally, etc... Having a talent for music doesn't make you a potential blockbuster, so I know there are people out there I'd get a kick listening to, but I'll never get the chance to... Bummer...

[bigmarty]

I think Buddy Guy said it best "Don't try to be the best,just be the best til the best comes around." Having said that I don't try to out do the next person or brag about what I can do. I only try to better myself and be a better musician because I love playing music and to me that's what matters having fun learning and playing.And if I can learn from other people who are more proficent than me then that's a plus for me.Hell, I already learned alot from this site so thank you guys :)

[mc9mm]

Ok ok I dont want to argue whether smart people
are socially handicapped or not.
My point was that they have no need to
brag, they know theyre smart and they are
so smart so they cant understand why you
would want to brag.
and I didnt say that just because youre
good you SHOULD sell alot of albums and make
people listen to you. You can still do
entertain people and teach them.
It doesnt matter if its 100.000.000 people
or just 10.
Or what the heck it could be just yourself youre
entertaining. I just think that if you have a gift,
dont let it go to waste.
There are many others that would be in your clothes.
Maybe some will say "I dont owe anybody anything
just because Im good at this and that!"
No, you owe it to yourself.

My opinion (and probably many others) is that
if you brag alot you are often pretty unsecure.
You want others to confirm how good you are.
Of course its nothing wrong in believing
in yourself and having confidence, but
to go about shouting "Im the best, you all suck"
is plain stupid, whats the point?


[Edited by mc9mm on 05-14-2002 at 09:08 AM]

[lalimacefolle]

Your opinion is much clearer now that you have stated it that way... But sadly, lots of great people never share their gifts with others. Be it because of suicide, selfishness, stupidity, or because they are assasinated...

[FretSlug]

While it pisses me off when someone brags about how good he or she is in guitar playing I must addmitt that I do it too. Not like "Hey, watch me play as fast as I can" but it comes when we have this orchestra in school and I play the lead guitar and when everybody else wait for the teacher to say "Let's play" or something they nearly always look at me because I play all the time and I know that I'm not the fastest guitarist on the earth but I'm fast enough, and they watch amazed as I do some sweeps or something like that. And it sucks, because I really would like to be one of the guys who stay quiet and when they play they play better than anyone who brags about his or her guitar skills.

The short conclusion:
I'm one of them who brag, but I don't do that in purpose of getting attention, I just like to play and I play when someone watches me and I like it, but I certainly don't like me doing that. Trying to stop it.. Yeh.

[aiwass]

Everything is ok as long as you don't say you're good. Oh and don't shred... Waitaminute. Shred. Just don't say you're good. Yeah. Something like that. I'm in the school jazz band too, by the way. Godawful if you ask me, but...

[kimbob]

This whole thing about being the best or wanting to be the best or thinking you're the best is irrelevent when it comes to music.
When I was a young kid, I heard "Green River" by "Creedence Clearwater Revival", and I thought that was just the coolest sound I had ever heard in my life! I knew at that moment what it was that I was destined to do. From that moment on I have been persuing the guitar as passionately as I can. I have never approached the guitar in any other way. "Passion"! I don't try do it to be better than everyone else. I do it because I'm obsessed with it. The fact that other people enjoy what I do and pay to hear me do it is a huge added bonus! I also do session work. In return I try to be the best I can possibly be at what I do. I haven't got rich doing it yet, but that's not why I do it. I love to perform.
I don't know who the best player on this site is, but it all depends on your style. I've heard lalimacefolle(the crazy slug?:confused: ) on his web site. Very impressive!:cool: But can you play "I hung it up" by "Jr Brown"?:eek: The point being, two very hot guitar players, two very different styles. Both extremly good at what they do, but you can't compare the two. I'm good at what I do, that's why I get paid, but that's not why I do it. If you're happy at what you do, that's all that matters. If you're not, then it's time to move on. Be the best player that "you" can be. If you can make your instrument do what you want it to, then you've succeeded. Please your self first and the rest will fall into place. Be passionate with your playing. It will make a big difference.:cool:
Who started this thread anyway?:confused:

[lalimacefolle]

Originally posted by kimbob

I don't know who the best player on this site is, but it all depends on your style. I've heard lalimacefolle(the crazy slug?:confused: ) on his web site. Very impressive!:cool: But can you play "I hung it up" by "Jr Brown"?:eek:


I can play it better :o, faster :o, more passionately :o, louder :o, and only with one hand :o
What's the tune??? (god, I get carried sometimes... where are my pills?)
I'm glad you enjoyed the site dude! My style is about humor and joy... If I brought a smile while listening to my music, it's cool :D

[aiwass]

lalimacefolle, where have i seen your slug cartoon before?

[lalimacefolle]

I dunno, it's not on my site, so unless you go on the french equivalent to this site, http://www.guitariff.net you might have seen it on the web I don't know where though...

[aiwass]

You see, Norway has some amazing cartoonists and cartoons, and I'm pretty sure it's from one of 'em (I used to wanna be a political cartoonist and did nothing but draw and play guitar. Then I guess guitar took over...)

[natethegreat2186]

i really love playin with people that r better than me. it makes me want to go futher and be better. i'm not the best but i am pretty good for only playing for 2 years. i play with people who have been playing for twenty years or so. so there's really no room for me to brag. i love learning on the guitar and i'll never quit it

[kimbob]

Originally posted by lalimacefolle
Originally posted by kimbob

But can you play "I hung it up" by "Jr Brown"?:eek:


I can play it better :o, faster :o, more passionately :o, louder :o, and only with one hand :o
What's the tune??? (god, I get carried sometimes... where are my pills?)
I'm glad you enjoyed the site dude! My style is about humor and joy... If I brought a smile while listening to my music, it's cool :D

You've got to love a guitar player with speed, passion, volume, pills and only one hand.:eek:
And I did enjoy your site. :D

[HELLion]

I am pretty sure I am not the best... I belive that I am good (let`s say just better than average) for my age, but still I want to gain more experience, because there will be and are always new tricks and other stuff....I think that music has no ****ing limit, and I am glad about that... :)

[lalimacefolle]

Originally posted by kimbob
And I did enjoy your site. :D [/B]

Thanks dude, I'm actually working on another version of my site, that would be better to get a record deal (it would be more 'serious'

[aiwass]

Dude, you really deseve a record deal! You f*cking rock!

[nechako]

one need only to be the best at being thereself

When I approach a jam situation I envision all my prior knowledge as a cup filled with with water, before entering the situation I simbolically empty this cup of knowledge so it is empty and I am able to receive a fresh cup of water(knowledge). One cannot receive if overflowing with there own knowledge.

[kingdavid]

Lal
I've been to your site but I've never heard your stuff coz the place I usually surf from has no sound stuff(card,software,speakers).Over the time I've been reading your posts,I've gotten the ever so slight feeling that you're a wee bit cocky about how good you are,but if what others who've been to your site and listened to your stuff say is true,then maybe you're not really a wee bit cocky.Maybe it's just stating a fact.Different people can intepret a simple statement of fact differently.Like this girl(who's from here,Kenya-she even of my tribe-,but is studying in the U.K)who I met on the net and told her I'm cute.She got on about "why are you bragging,praising yourself.......?"All I did was state a fact.What's the big deal?I mean,the word cute is applied to people coz some people are that.Same as tall.Or skinny.Whatever.
Anyway,a record deal would be good for you.I envy you,in that front.
And I'm sure anyone would love to be good enough people think he can get a deal.And that's on account of his/her musical ability,not the crap that lands so many suck-ass people all over T.V and radio.That is something.
I don't know about using the internet to get a deal.As in from scratch.I dunno if it can work.I dunno if rec execs. actually surf the net looking for demos and what have you.Tell me,Lal,how many people outside of guitartricks(or other sites where your website's URL might appear)have the chance to know if the site even exists.And out of those who know,how many are rec execs?How many know rec execs?
I dunno any of this stuff.It's just the way I figure it.
There's a guy on another site I been to who's written some stuff about these things.Maybe you might want to check it out.It's a series of articles about songwriting,publishing,blah,blah,blah.
http://www.guitarnoise.com/songwriting
There's also a new site about musiccareers that I know.Maybe you know the stuff they're talking about.Maybe you don't.Maybe whatever they're saying is true.Maybe it's not.But it wouldn't hurt you to check it out,would it?
http://www.musiccareers.net
If I had the resources to help people,I really could.
I'm that kind of guy.:o
:D

[^Chacron^]

Originally posted by aiwass
The 1st commandment for guitarists: If thou admittest to being good, regardless of how good thou art, thou art in reality ****e.



But if you have talent why deny it insted of celebate it? Renowned geniuses who say things like 'i can't play' most probably do so because they dont want to come across as egotists. I see nothing wrong with people who say they are good but the ones who say 'I'm the best'......well, we've been there before.....

Me? I can play, sure, but I'm always looking back at what i played and thinking 'I would change this that or the other' or thinking about how my technique went wrong in places. I find on any of the three instruments I play, my audience always admire me more than I admire myself.

[Willdridge]

I guess there's a thin line between being confident about your talent and being cocky.
Modesty's not something that's natural to many people it seems...I guess my princible is to "shut up and play yer geetar..."
Wise words from a wise (if not excentric) man...:s

[lalimacefolle]

Actully, I do not want to be discovered, I just think that it's normal nowadays to have your music available on the net. I have had more than 10000 visits on my personal site over the last 8 months, and some of my songs have been downloaded several hundred times.

As for telling me I am cocky, you are right, my wife-to-be always tells me I can sound like a self satisfied prick when I talk about my musical skills. I usually answer that I never lie, and she knows about it. Jaco once said 'it ain't bragging if you can back it up' and I live to this standard. But I do not want to fall all over myself telling I suck while I know I don't!! :D

[aiwass]

You're supposed to say "I suck" with a little wink. It's supposed to be sarcastic yet humble.

[lalimacefolle]

Hmmmmmmmm... I'll try that...

[kingdavid]

Originally posted by Willdridge
I guess there's a thin line between being confident about your talent and being cocky.
Too darn thin.
It takes a degree of wisdom to not come across as cocky.

[lalimacefolle]

I'm cocky and proud of it! ;)

[nechako]

man with hole in pocket feel cockey all day

[kingdavid]

Not knowing something is bad enough.
Not knowing that you don't know?
tsk,tsk.

[magicninja]

I'm glad to have gotten such a response I knew this would be a good thread!

[magicninja]

How many people here are truly big headed and like to think they are the best? How many want to be the best and try without being a total jerk about it? How many people here can jam with somebody who is better them and admit it to them and try to learn something. I find a lot of people claiming this and saying that. I posted almost all of one of my songs because I wanted to know what people thought not because I wanted to show off. So what is your playing mentality do you want to learn all you can or do you just want to say your the best no arguements and thats final? I hope to get a good thread going on this subject because its such a hot topic. I know what we all write about other people but what do you think of yourself?

Let's try this again!! Some classics from the Lord, Willdrige, PonyOne. What do you think now?

[CW14]

I'll admit I'm a competant player technique wise, but whoopdy-doo...
The real skill is in your songwriting, improvising and so on. I'm nowhere near where I want to be with either of those. I really don't care who's better than me... it's MUSIC for **** sake, not a sport.

BTW, I'm not angry, I just hate concieted people.

[magicninja]

Yes I agree.

[PRSplaya]

I think everybody's better than me.

[Akira]

I think everybody's better than me.

Pfft, you're a GREAT rhythm player, if you wasn't half way around the world away from me, i'd lure you into a band with me.

Myself, I think i'm OK. I need to improve more though.

[PRSplaya]

Thanks for the compliment. I do what I can. I just don't feel like I'm anywhere near where I should be though.

[Akira]

Thanks for the compliment. I do what I can. I just don't feel like I'm anywhere near where I should be though.

Playing guitar isn't for an end product, it's an ever lasting thing.

I still need to improve though; I suck!

[Leedogg]

I'm pretty hard on my playing. If anything, I need more ego. I was hoping I'd be better than I am after 4 years of consistent playing.

[Cryptic Excretions]

I'll put my views out like this. When I say things like "I want to be among the best" it's simply a broad range goal description. For me it's more of a metaphor saying that I'd really rather take my skill as far as I possibly can. I consider myself a competant guitarist, but I don't really think of myself as good or great or anything like that. In the event that I evaluate myself I see so much more territory I need to cover and can't bring myself to settle with crediting myself like that. And, to be honest, I hope that I always feel most comfortable calling myself a competant guitarist rather than a good/great/whatever guitarist. I feel better about things that way. Of course I'd imagine it would feel pretty good to hear people call me one of the greatest, but being realistic about things it seems like a bit hollow of a goal... for me anyway. I'd really rather work on making fun and enjoyable music before I start worrying about how people describe me.

[Willdridge]

And, to be honest, I hope that I always feel most comfortable calling myself a competant guitarist rather than a good/great/whatever guitarist. I feel better about things that way.

I think that's the best way to be about it. Wanting to a great guitarist and thinking you're a great guitarist are very different things. I'm comfortable being competant, but I'm still striving to be the best, (I seriously doubt I ever will be, but that's not the point). It's about having a goal and going for it - if you ever actually become so good you think you've got nothing left to learn, then it's time to put down the guitar in my opinion.

On a side note, one of the most eye opening things for me was watching a video lesson by Joe Satriani (think it was on guitar.com :confused:) where he messed up - out right fluffed. Do you know what he did? He shrug, he laughed and he tried again, (and kicked-ass I might say!) Even the "greatest" guitarists aren't perfect, they just don't do it as often!

[quickfingers]

I know a guitar player that can do Stevie Ray, Yngwie and Steve Vai solos note for note, but he is one of the worlds biggest egotist' and all around duppa judda's(polish for a__hole):eek:. This guy is destined to play his extrordinary solo's, solo, because nobody can stand him or will get on the same stage with him because he's a dink.The point I'm trying to make is, nobody cares how good you think you are. Your attitude is very important if you want to work in a band. Your personality will take you just about as far as your talent will.

i respect this post alot becuase the person he described is the classic guitar virtuoso in a classic situation of fate. im not that great in the grand scheme of things, but i can definitely hold my own as a compitent guitarist, but i think that my experience in a number of bands will shape who i become down the road. the fact that you can sweep pick flawlessly at 160 bpm matters little when no one wants to play with you. ive found that the higher expectations you have of "your" band, the less poeple are interested in it. ive played in some pretty ****ty bands, but ive had loads of fun, and ive played a ton of gigs. sure, playing for teenage punk/hardcore kids isnt the most aspiring crowd, but at least youre out there, putting your music on the front line, getting your thoughts out with a guitar and mic, and doing it. whenever i hear people brag so much about ability, and theyre sitting in the "guitarist wanted" seciton of a forum, i just have to laugh a little to myself becuae theyll probably never actually be in a band. its because they expect things to run flawlessly, and have all of their ideas recorded perfectly and exactly how they want on their demos, ect. then (if they actually find a few guys that will put up with their egos) they hit a brick wall when they play a show and the song they worked on for weeks came out simply average, and the blistering solo you thought would wow the entire audience...didnt.

to make a long story short, you would be most unwise to sacrifice 100% of your youth in your bedroom jamming, all the while knowing that you could be the next rockstar, then sacrifice a little talent by getting out there and starting a real band. if you want all your ideas to yoruself, and you think your tough-**** enough to do it all yourself, go solo by all means. but dont blame anyone else when youre 40 something and you regret being 19 and getting in a band and having fun with your talent and creativity.

[Cryptic Excretions]

I think that's the best way to be about it. Wanting to a great guitarist and thinking you're a great guitarist are very different things. I'm comfortable being competant, but I'm still striving to be the best, (I seriously doubt I ever will be, but that's not the point). It's about having a goal and going for it - if you ever actually become so good you think you've got nothing left to learn, then it's time to put down the guitar in my opinion.

On a side note, one of the most eye opening things for me was watching a video lesson by Joe Satriani (think it was on guitar.com :confused:) where he messed up - out right fluffed. Do you know what he did? He shrug, he laughed and he tried again, (and kicked-ass I might say!) Even the "greatest" guitarists aren't perfect, they just don't do it as often!
I agree with you completely. As for Joe, it's always comforting to see a pro slip up. Reminds me that they're still human. Makes it easier for me to think that my goals aren't a silly pipe dream.

[Willdridge]

I agree with you completely. As for Joe, it's always comforting to see a pro slip up. Reminds me that they're still human. Makes it easier for me to think that my goals aren't a silly pipe dream.

Joe's been one of my all time hero's on guitar - and seeing this lesson made me realise, like you say, they are just human. What you never get to see is the hour's upon hour's of practice they've put in to be able to play the way they do. I'm a firm believer that if you're prepared to put the effort in, you'll get the reward.

It comes easier to some than others, but that doesn't make them better, it just mean's they've got a natural talent. Someone said on another post "nobody's born with a guitar"...wiser word's were never spoken if you ask me.

[3fingeredblues]

I think that people who think of themselves as the best are really kidding themselves, Yngwie Malmsteen springs to mind, because others may think they suck.

I try to strive to be the best I can be, and I am never satisfied....no matter how many people will say they like my playing (which is satisfying), it won't deter me from trying to improve. I think that is what sets the great ones apart from the posers. I'm sure, for example, if you told Joe Satriani that he was the "best", that he would take your compliment, but wouldn't actually beleive it in his own heart....he would probably say in his mind "but I cant speed pick like Al Dimeola, and my legato chops fall short of Allen Holdsworth..."

To strive to be the best that you can be is an admirable quality, and I try to better myself continually....I hope I never get there however, because then what would be left for me to strive for?

[Willdridge]

I think that people who think of themselves as the best are really kidding themselves, Yngwie Malmsteen springs to mind, because others may think they suck.

I try to strive to be the best I can be, and I am never satisfied....no matter how many people will say they like my playing (which is satisfying), it won't deter me from trying to improve. I think that is what sets the great ones apart from the posers. I'm sure, for example, if you told Joe Satriani that he was the "best", that he would take your compliment, but wouldn't actually beleive it in his own heart....he would probably say in his mind "but I cant speed pick like Al Dimeola, and my legato chops fall short of Allen Holdsworth..."

To strive to be the best that you can be is an admirable quality, and I try to better myself continually....I hope I never get there however, because then what would be left for me to strive for?

Yes, yes and yes...I absolutely agree with your statements on Joe. I think he, as is Steve Vai and Eric Johnson, et al, are always striving to be better - and I think what set's them apart from other virtuoso's is that they know there's thing's they don't know...(did that come out right? Think I lost myself there!).

To pick up on your Yngwie statement - I can't deny that he can play...but from a personal perspective, when I listen to his albums, all they make me do is want to play more accurately - they don't inspire me to write or play "music". Joe's, Steve's and Eric's, (along with many other's) however do - and I know a lot of non-guitar player's who enjoy their music because of this. I don't think Yngwie "sucks" as such, I just feel that you hear a Malmsteen solo...then you hear it again on another track...and the next, and the next and - well, you get my point...the notes may be different, but the content's much the same.

[R. Shackleferd]

Yep, I declined joining an initial attempt at a band with a real good friend (drummer) because of another guitar player he recruited had that attitude of bragging and the mentality of "better than". I met and jammed with them once, and I could tell it wasn't going to work. He told stories of how he could blow this guy or that guy away, or whatever. Sure he could play lickety split fast, but they weren't his licks, and he didn't have any "soul". I only smiled when he asked me how I got my guitar to sound like that?

[Cryptic Excretions]

Yep, I declined joining an initial attempt at a band with a real good friend (drummer) because of another guitar player he recruited had that attitude of bragging and the mentality of "better than". I met and jammed with them once, and I could tell it wasn't going to work. He told stories of how he could blow this guy or that guy away, or whatever. Sure he could play lickety split fast, but they weren't his licks, and he didn't have any "soul". I only smiled when he asked me how I got my guitar to sound like that?
And as far as my opinion is concerned, that's all that should be done when someone like that asks.

[3fingeredblues]

Yes, yes and yes...I absolutely agree with your statements on Joe. I think he, as is Steve Vai and Eric Johnson, et al, are always striving to be better - and I think what set's them apart from other virtuoso's is that they know there's thing's they don't know...(did that come out right? Think I lost myself there!).

To pick up on your Yngwie statement - I can't deny that he can play...but from a personal perspective, when I listen to his albums, all they make me do is want to play more accurately - they don't inspire me to write or play "music". Joe's, Steve's and Eric's, (along with many other's) however do - and I know a lot of non-guitar player's who enjoy their music because of this. I don't think Yngwie "sucks" as such, I just feel that you hear a Malmsteen solo...then you hear it again on another track...and the next, and the next and - well, you get my point...the notes may be different, but the content's much the same.


Exactly, my point about Yngwie. While I can't deny his greatness at what he does, the guy has thought that he was soooo great for so long that he hasn't grown any. I don't hear any growth in his playing since Rising Force (which I still find brilliant). Yngwie exudes the attitude "I am so great, it must be true because I said so" and therefore doesn't see the need to progress, which only traps him....like spinning your tires to prove how great your car is, it doesn't get you to a new destination, rather you just stay in one place blowing smoke.

I'm sure if he ever wrote a biography the title would have to be "Yngwie J. Malmsteen - A legend in my mind"

[Willdridge]

I'm sure if he ever wrote a biography the title would have to be "Yngwie J. Malmsteen - A legend in my mind"

lmfao - y'know, you're probably not so far off the mark. What's the quote? "If his p***s was as big as his ego he'd need three legged trousers" ?...(sure I'm paraphrasing there, but hey - artistic licence and all that).

And I agree about the lack of growth - he's not had the staying power of other "great's" from the same era. Rising Force is great, for what it is. I have it, I listen to it occasionally, but since owning it I've never felt the need to buy any of his other albums...yet I always keep an eye out for Satch and Vai...

To the fans - I'm not knocking Malmsteen, it's just I've grown out of the effect his playing had on me.

[magicninja]

Hey Willdridge have you read what you wrote on this thread three years ago?

[Willdridge]

I think so, unless you're pointing something else out...was that when I was in search of "Riot In The Dungeon" tabs?...

If so...

To the fans - I'm not knocking Malmsteen, it's just I've grown out of the effect his playing had on me.

If it's something else, then no, you'll have to point me in the right direction...

[magicninja]

Exactly!

I know I'm not the greatest/fastest/most emotional/etc. player in the world. I'll admit it's my goal, but it's something I'm very unlikely to be able to achieve. Ultimately, I want to be able to play whatever I want as well as I can. At the moment, I think I can hold my own against most advanced guitarist, but I'm nothing special.
I think there's always too much emphasis on trying to be better than everyone else though. I treat better guitarists as an oppurtunity to learn something new and expand my playing. It also gives you that inspiration (the firm kick up the backside) to raise your standard and improve yourself...
Just my two pennies worth...
Here's your first post on this thread sometime in 2002. Go back and skim thru the entire thread you said some crazy things.

[Willdridge]

Here's your first post on this thread sometime in 2002. Go back and skim thru the entire thread you said some crazy things.

That's probably very true...let's see 2002...I would've been, what 17?...I was young, opinionated and largely misguided...

I hope I'm a little a wiser now - all I say is that if I knew then what I know now, there's an awful lot of stuff I wouldn't've done or said. I'll look back on this in three years time and think exactly the same, I've no doubt.

Ah, damn the internet and it's record of my stupidity!... ;)

[magicninja]

Were'nt we all?

[Willdridge]

There's a hell of a lot of threads to go through y'know...you're gonna have to help me out here and point out the particularly ridiculous ones....

Addition:

There were some pretty trippy thread's back then, weren't there?...(most not my doing I'd like to add!!!) Feel quite nostalgic now actually...those were the day's...oh, to be young, nieve and misguided again!!!

[magicninja]

I guess there's a thin line between being confident about your talent and being cocky.
Modesty's not something that's natural to many people it seems...I guess my princible is to "shut up and play yer geetar..."
Wise words from a wise (if not excentric) man...:s

Here's one before you learned to spell

[magicninja]

We,ve added five new pages to this "dead thread". How wonderful.

[Willdridge]

Here's one before you learned to spell

Yea, you'll have to excuse my spilling miscakes...I still blame these damn stupid fingers! :p

But, I feel vidicated reading through some of those old posts...I raised some valid points...well, I'm sure I raised one, somewhere, once, at least...
;)

[magicninja]

How many people here are truly big headed and like to think they are the best? How many want to be the best and try without being a total jerk about it? How many people here can jam with somebody who is better them and admit it to them and try to learn something. I find a lot of people claiming this and saying that. I posted almost all of one of my songs because I wanted to know what people thought not because I wanted to show off. So what is your playing mentality do you want to learn all you can or do you just want to say your the best no arguements and thats final? I hope to get a good thread going on this subject because its such a hot topic. I know what we all write about other people but what do you think of yourself?

Ok for those who lost sight of the Question. Or new posts who need a place to start.

[3fingeredblues]

We,ve added five new pages to this "dead thread". How wonderful.


It may have been a "dead thread", but is still a valid point of conversation.

[magicninja]

That is exactly why I brought it back when I found it. It'll probably die off again in a week or two or maybe not. If it does in three years I'll bring it back to see where people stand then.

[Cryptic Excretions]

Joe's been one of my all time hero's on guitar - and seeing this lesson made me realise, like you say, they are just human. What you never get to see is the hour's upon hour's of practice they've put in to be able to play the way they do. I'm a firm believer that if you're prepared to put the effort in, you'll get the reward.

It comes easier to some than others, but that doesn't make them better, it just mean's they've got a natural talent. Someone said on another post "nobody's born with a guitar"...wiser word's were never spoken if you ask me.
I'd missed this one earlier and wanted to contribute more thoughts to this topic. That being said... Natural talent is just the tendancy to do things correctly. However the difference between the gifted and the well read is a debate that I care not to delve into, but in the end either way it doesn't really matter. Just so long as the music doesn't suck, that's all I really care about.

[Shredda_42]

well i know I suck, although I practise heaps i know i suck and i can admitt quite openly that others are way better then me and i agree that saying you're as good as or better then someone is only a matter of your own opinion.....LV Sheree XOXOXO

[Akira]

That is exactly why I brought it back when I found it. It'll probably die off again in a week or two or maybe not. If it does in three years I'll bring it back to see where people stand then.

Yay for a longitudinal survey!

[Cryptic Excretions]

There've been some threads that have more so gone into extended hibernation rather than just kicking the bucket. Most threads, good or not, just don't have the motivational "umph" to get things going, but every so often you'll find a thread like this that can get everyone interested. Like the Yep thread for example. Who couldn't relate to that?

[Jolly McJollyson]

How many people here are truly big headed and like to think they are the best? How many want to be the best and try without being a total jerk about it? How many people here can jam with somebody who is better them and admit it to them and try to learn something. I find a lot of people claiming this and saying that. I posted almost all of one of my songs because I wanted to know what people thought not because I wanted to show off. So what is your playing mentality do you want to learn all you can or do you just want to say your the best no arguements and thats final? I hope to get a good thread going on this subject because its such a hot topic. I know what we all write about other people but what do you think of yourself?
I don't think I am the best. I KNOW I am the best. Every morning I wake up, listen to my CD, and call my bandmates to inform them that we are still the greatest thing ever. Then I go up on the roof and play my guitar for all to hear. And my neighbors come outside and say "GO, DUDE! YOU ARE ALL THE ROCK N' ROLL THIS WORLD EVER NEEDS!"

[Cryptic Excretions]

I don't think I am the best. I KNOW I am the best. Every morning I wake up, listen to my CD, and call my bandmates to inform them that we are still the greatest thing ever. Then I go up on the roof and play my guitar for all to hear. And my neighbors come outside and say "GO, DUDE! YOU ARE ALL THE ROCK N' ROLL THIS WORLD EVER NEEDS!"
If Jolly didn't say it then who would?

[Lordathestrings]

If Jolly didn't say it then who would?
LMAO!! :D

7890

[magicninja]

My skill is in arranging and songwriting. I am no great shake at just lighting up a solo or shredding the strings off a guitar. Anyone who listened to my songs can tell you that. Yes, Jolly is the best!!

(Better to agree than argue :rolleyes: :D )

[magicninja]

Yay for a longitudinal survey!

What did you call me? :confused: :D

[Akira]

What did you call me? :confused: :D

I called you a survey that is done over a long period of time, usually over several years.

Take that to heart sucker!!

:rolleyes:

[magicninja]

Aaahhh....You got me. :eek: :D

[Jolly McJollyson]

If Jolly didn't say it then who would?
:D 4567890

[Akira]

Aaahhh....You got me. :eek: :D

Layin' down the laaaaaawwww! :cool:

[magicninja]

How many people here are truly big headed and like to think they are the best? How many want to be the best and try without being a total jerk about it? How many people here can jam with somebody who is better them and admit it to them and try to learn something. I find a lot of people claiming this and saying that. I posted almost all of one of my songs because I wanted to know what people thought not because I wanted to show off. So what is your playing mentality do you want to learn all you can or do you just want to say your the best no arguements and thats final? I hope to get a good thread going on this subject because its such a hot topic. I know what we all write about other people but what do you think of yourself?

Original message for those who are wondering what's going on :)

[Akira]

Original message for those who are wondering what's going on :)

Sorry, am I side tracking the thread mr ninja? *puppy eyes*

[magicninja]

In a thread this long it happens every few posts. No big deal.

[Lordathestrings]

How many people here are truly big headed and like to think they are the best? How many want to be the best and try without being a total jerk about it? How many people here can jam with somebody who is better them and admit it to them and try to learn something. I find a lot of people claiming this and saying that. I posted almost all of one of my songs because I wanted to know what people thought not because I wanted to show off. So what is your playing mentality do you want to learn all you can or do you just want to say your the best no arguements and thats final? I hope to get a good thread going on this subject because its such a hot topic. I know what we all write about other people but what do you think of yourself?

I mostly a rhthym player. I do melodic leads. On a good day, I'm almost as fast as, say, uh... David Gilmour! :cool:

hmm...

My spelling wasn't up to standard that day either!

I'm still mostly a chord-basher, though I've added bass to my arsenal, and I get peer recognition for knowing what it takes to make a song worth listening to.

I should frickin' hope so - I've been at it since '68! :p

[3fingeredblues]

We should all be so lucky as to play like David Gilmour.

In my book he's one of the "BEST" ever.

Never plays a whole lot of notes, just the right ones.....you can't teach that.

[Cryptic Excretions]

We should all be so lucky as to play like David Gilmour.

In my book he's one of the "BEST" ever.

Never plays a whole lot of notes, just the right ones.....you can't teach that.
I was listening to some pink floyd just yesterday at work. My selection of their stuff happened to be in the group that doesn't get listened to quite as much as the others, and yet, upon listening to it I couldn't quite understand why I didn't listen to it as much as the stuff I listen to more. It impacted me that particular time more than it did in the other times. So just yesterday, Gilmour gained some points in my book and I've no problem with agreeing with you.

[magicninja]

Yay for a longitudinal survey!


Yes. Longitudinal survey......

[indian_balla4ev]

how much do all of you play when you have time do you go on a schedule or just when you have free time.... and do yall play songs or just make up your own and play them.

[zoran the dark]

How many people here are truly big headed and like to think they are the best? How many want to be the best and try without being a total jerk about it? How many people here can jam with somebody who is better them and admit it to them and try to learn something. I find a lot of people claiming this and saying that. I posted almost all of one of my songs because I wanted to know what people thought not because I wanted to show off. So what is your playing mentality do you want to learn all you can or do you just want to say your the best no arguements and thats final? I hope to get a good thread going on this subject because its such a hot topic. I know what we all write about other people but what do you think of yourself?

I think big headed must come with a clear mind. If you think you can do better, do it. I am only interesting in growing my guitarwork. Everybody I gues.

like Master Yoda, DO OR DO NOT

[magicninja]

I see eggman and pure joined Jolly and 6strngs. Yet left no validation for their claims. :eek: :p

[PonyOne]

hmm, well, now i know how to play my chords by name and sound. i lost my melodica. i'm contemplating buying another sax.

what a difference almost 4 years can make.

how much do all of you play when you have time do you go on a schedule or just when you have free time.... and do yall play songs or just make up your own and play them.
free time, i try to balance it between songs by bands i like, and trying to make stuff up (to feed my ADD). i always try to set a goal for each time i sit down and play, and try to achieve that before i stop.

[bigbuda]

I would be happy to have someone to jam with and learn from. Too bad I live in BFE. :D
I think I suck personally but have been told I'm a decent rythym guitarist. I know my chords and can change between them fairly well but my lead needs alotta work.

[iamthe_eggman]

I see eggman and pure joined Jolly and 6strngs. Yet left no validation for their claims. :eek: :p

To quote from this thread: "It ain't bragging if you can back it up"



(unfortunately... in my case, it is bragging) :(

[Andrew Sa]

Jamming with more accomplished guitarists than yourself is awesome...you learn so much...that said, jamming with a guy who has been playing two months can be good, they often have diffferent perspectives and ideas...you can learn summin from everyone you jam with, better than you or not...they will always know summin you dont.

I am not a great guitarist, but I'm not bad...doubt Im even good...but I do enjoy playing a whole lot and I love getting better.
I am a gear head, and there is no doubt that most of my equipment is better than me...I just have constant GAS, and somehow manage to come up with the cash (I save for months, then I am flat broke, but if I get a new piece of gear its all alright).

posting an ego related thread in a guitarists forum is hilarious...

[magicninja]

Imagine that........

[GuitarPsy]

I'm terrible after three years of playing, I try to play just for fun, I hate it when people say 'oh you still can't play that, that's easy', gonna form a band now and get my skills up, it's hard for me to play alone without any goals, besides I live with 2 roommates and the walls are very thin :rolleyes:

[jiujitsu_jesus]

My playing stinks, but I haven't been playing long... hopefully I'll improve... (this is coming from the "Wealth of Guitar Knowledge" :p )

[earthman buck]

I think there should be another category in there so I can vote. It should say something like "I'm not very good, but I don't seem to improve very much either" or "*sobbing*"

[acapella]

As much as that box may claim I know a thing or two about guitar, I think it is far less than that. Can we do another with the sobbing category? I want that option.