Evolution of Rock Music

[ZackyH]

I was just looking at a bulletin board post on rollingstone.com

http://www.rollingstone.com/boards/alphalisting.asp?tid=405062

Most of the people here think that rock music cannot evolve anymore than what it has already done. Do you agree with this or do you think there are untapped ideas that have yet to be implemented that will change the face of rock music yet again?

I kind of think there is...and it will be I that shall accomplish it. Hahahahaha!!!!

...ok, maybe not but anyways...

[Raskolnikov]

There is always something new that somebody could do with Rock or any other genre at any time.

It just takes more vision than the average person was born with.

[Lordathestrings]

Back in Mozart's time, there was concern that all of the worthwhile possible combinations of notes had been used up. It isn't so these days, either.

[educatedfilm]

yeah... I mean rock music has only really been around for 40 or so years, really it's still in it's infancy... I mean i think there'll be a further development in how we percieve sound... I mean the most complex thing we have now is stereo. which is good, but there's gotta be more... I've been reading up on synthesia, a very cool "syndrome" where poeple see music, and hear colours (this happens when your stoned on some drugs too)... Now i think it's not long before someone will be able to harness this so that WE SEE the music (you can still see everything else around you, so if your worried about walking into lamp posts if you were to use this on your walkman while walking around town)... I mean really, at the minute we've not got very far from the days of beethoven... How percieve sound is pretty much the same... other than some funky panning steroe effects...
Secondly, there may be a new effect as revolutionary as the wah in the pipeline as we speak...

ps: i couldn't find that perticular post... but I feel sooo good when i see a forum filled with poeple calling each other homos and going nowhere.. it kinda makes me look sensible... and reminds me what a good forum this is...

[Edited by educatedfilm on 02-19-2002 at 08:21 AM]

[ZackyH]

Yeah, if you would have went back through to where they were actually talking about something but that was all the way back to yesterday. There could have been 200 posts in which some dorks started some shouting match.

[Christoph]

Here's my theory of "rock" music -

60's and 70's - anti-establishment, anti-war, etc

80's - sex

90' - depression, meaning of life, anti-religion

2000 - societal ills, relationships, misc nonsensical

Where will the theme go next??? You tell me . . .

[PonyOne]

I think I represent the future of rock.

Studying scales and progressions and theories from all over the world, and then adapting them with an SG and a Metal Zone over a Vox, and then using a beatbox to make some pimpin sh!t and grafting it all together. That's the future.

[James]

Originally posted by educatedfilm
[B]see music, and hear colours (this happens when your stoned on some drugs too)... ]

yeah.. Ketamine (special k).

Personally I agree that in the future we're going to see more "multi-senses" type stuff. Like concerts that have huge backdrops of video that compliment the type of music.

[ZackyH]

They already do the video backdrop thing. Nine Inch Nails has been doing that for years. They have videos of nuclear bombs blowing up in the background, images of death and destruction. It's kind of disturbing. Check out the live video of Hurt from back in 95 I think. It was during the Self Destruction tour.

[PonyOne]

NIN innovated a lot of things, but I think a lot of people don't WANT to give it credit. Some people make a mockery of NIN because it came at the forefront of self-loathing music, some people worship it. A girl I know, upon hearing Trent Reznor's name, will put her hands to her breasts, look up, and say, simply, "Orgasm." Trent is a brilliant artist.

As far as multi-sensory experiences go... ever been to a rave?

[ZackyH]

I've noticed that a lot of girls really like Trent. All the goth chicks I know say he's hot and stuff. It makes me wonder if they're even paying attention to the music or just his looks. Anyway, I've never been to a rave. The only place that I know of that has raves around this area is a gay hangout. Won't be going there. That's a muitl-sensory experience I have no desire for.

[Lordathestrings]

Originally posted by ZackyH
...Won't be going there. That's a muitl-sensory experience I have no desire for. Keep your eyes and ears open, your mouth shut, and your back to the wall.

[Incidents Happen]

yeah, make sure you dont drop somethin

[Lordathestrings]

Originally posted by Lordathestrings
Originally posted by ZackyH
...Won't be going there. That's a muitl-sensory experience I have no desire for. Keep your eyes and ears open, your mouth shut, and your back to the wall. I hope you realise I was being facetious. You're actually much safer in a room full of gays than you would be in a thrash-metal bar.

[Incidents Happen]

very true



unless they are biker gays

[Raskolnikov]

Originally posted by Lordathestrings
Originally posted by Lordathestrings
Originally posted by ZackyH
...Won't be going there. That's a muitl-sensory experience I have no desire for. Keep your eyes and ears open, your mouth shut, and your back to the wall. I hope you realise I was being facetious. You're actually much safer in a room full of gays than you would be in a thrash-metal bar.

What about Rob Halford though? He could theoreticly be found in either type of establishment.

[Incidents Happen]

who's he?

[Bardsley]

Didn't you know, Lordathestrings? If you hang around gays too often you catch it from them.

[jack7]

Originally posted by Christoph

Here's my theory of "rock" music -

60's and 70's - anti-establishment, anti-war, etc

80's - sex

90' - depression, meaning of life, anti-religion

2000 - societal ills, relationships, misc nonsensical

Where will the theme go next??? You tell me . . .

history repeats itself back to war
and that is sad.

[Incidents Happen]

hey, so that means that the anti- war movement of the 60's could happen today? wow

party!

[educatedfilm]

no, the sensory thing i was talking about is where it's ONE sense, you can longer distinguish the sound from the colour, it's meant to be very very cool... Wether it would have any side effects i dont know.

[Incidents Happen]

ah i see...like on the simpsons lisa was like "I can see the music"

[Raskolnikov]

Originally posted by Incidents Happen
who's he?

The singer from Juda's Preist. I hear he also did a little work with Iron Maiden.

Think: "Breakin' the law, breakin' the law." That guy.

[Incidents Happen]

oh...alright.


still dont know him :(

[Raskolnikov]

That's because you listen to that hippie shyee... ah... stuff.

[PonyOne]

I saw Gorillaz tonight, it was a good show. Interesting concepts.

[ZackyH]

Gorillaz is a little overrated. I bought their CD thinking it would be techno pop music like the two singles. It turned out that those two songs are the only things that are any good (At least for me). I don't know. I like experimental stuff but I couldn't get into it. I haven't seen the live show, though.

[PonyOne]

I liked the CD, and the set was good, but Clint Eastwood was so overdone it's beyond words. They played the song twice, for god's sake, which pissed me off, there others that woulda been cool.

Most of the people there were either ravers or just your generic "who's playing again?" clubbers, complete with a little pit area where unattractive girls gyrated and acted like they were having sex. There was this cute girl next to me who was like 4'8, and i'm 6'1, and it was really weird when she tried to grind w/me.

[ZackyH]

That would be annoying to play a song over again. They played that song a million times on MTV2. I wrote about them earlier, but have you ever listened to Pop Will Eat Itself. They're a cool band that has done experimental electronic music kind of like Gorillaz.